Vocal Discussion of Yuki's Singers

[ZoaKaizer]

^ but a smoker can also seen fro their face right ?

there are some signs on teh facial feature that someone is smoking

 

[wintersviolet]

but Kajiura herself is not the main vocalist, she only do backround chorus in studio recording. And also, she is THE BOSS, LOL


So i think she still can told her vocalists to not smoking.

FJ Lives: Yuki sang in Zodiacal Sign, Aikoi, Yorokobi, Synchronicity, and Stone Cold.
Tracks where Fion alone is credited for vocals: Pugna Cum Maga, Open Your Box, Saints.

That's enough proof she's not solely singing chorus in studio.

It's within Yuki's rights to tell her singers not to smoke; that's not being questioned. What I said is it's hypocritical, based on the fact she is herself singing and only IF she is still smoking.

 

[garnetjester]

What if Wakana is getting singer nodules or something to that effect? If the girls have actually never received proper training in vocal techniques then they could be straining their voices, especially Wakana because she has to sing in a higher range. Such practices can lead to developing singer's nodules which could be affecting her voice right now.

 

[Cerise]

Re:

^
Now I listen to their live without seeing it, Wakana's voice now does have a smoker quality voice, a bit raspy and not smooth as it used to be, especially in falsetto. Although I wish that her voice just strained out, and not because of her smoking

Noooooooooooooo....

What if Wakana is getting singer nodules or something to that effect? If the girls have actually never received proper training in vocal techniques then they could be straining their voices, especially Wakana because she has to sing in a higher range. Such practices can lead to developing singer's nodules which could be affecting her voice right now.

/searches up

A vocal cord nodule reduces or obstructs the ability of the vocal folds to create the rapid changes in air pressure which generate human speech. Symptoms include hoarseness of speech, painful speech production, frequent vocal breaks, and reduced vocal range. Vocal fold nodules develop mostly in adult females, and children of both sexes.

Vocal cord nodules, although they can certainly impair one's speaking and singing ability, rarely harm one's general health. Indeed, the psychological trauma of being diagnosed with nodules—a trauma affecting those especially whose professional success depends on consistently producing a rich and powerful vocal tone (e.g. singers, actors, litigation lawyers, broadcasters)—typically dwarfs the limited systemic and even otolaryngological effects.

Treatment, or voice rehabilitation, usually involves vocal training, speech therapy, and, occasionally, vocal rest. In rare cases, surgery may be required. Removal of vocal cord nodules is a relatively safe and minor surgery. However, those who sing professionally or otherwise should take serious consideration before having surgery as it can affect the ability to sustain notes, as well as alter the vocal range. Examples of this are José José and Julie Andrews, who lost much of their singing ability after undergoing vocal nodule surgery. While the patient is subdued under general anesthesia, long thin scissors and scalpels are used to remove the nodules, or CO2 surgical lasers might be used which are very effective in such cases. The best preventive steps seem to be wrapped up in the study of vocology, the science and practice of voice habilitation.

OHMIGOD PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOOO

Symptoms of vocal nodules include vocal fatigue and hoarseness or breathiness. Hoarseness or breathiness that lasts for more than two weeks may signal a voice disorder and should be followed up with an appointment with an otolaryngologist.

 

[ritardando]

OMG It's totally what Wakana's having now...

This is a bad possibility. Even worse than if she started smoking. And Manten is another Wakana-lead song, which means another rest-less Wakana. They should let Wakana rest. YK live vol.8 is a great example, because Kajiura invited Eri and Hanae, 2 singers that mostly replaced by Wakana in FJ/YK lives. And they should take a break from Kalafina lives.

 

[Cerise]

Wh-what if she does have vocal nodules?!

And-and what if she needs surgery???!!!

AND what if she loses her singing ability like Julia Andrews and can never sing again????


/too terrible to think about-

 

[wintersviolet]

^ Don't work yourself up into a frenzy just yet

 

[ZoaKaizer]

i think we fear too much already


lets hope the best for wakana


i believe she just need more rest and healthy food/drink

 

[aero.senpai]

@Cerise: calm down, nothing's confirmed yet.

But these symptoms really fit with Wakana's current situation. But the problem is: is she aware of her own condition? I mean, it's been sometime since she begun to struggle to sing, and it seems she just kept her singing activities like if nothing is happening. It's past time she should have seen a specialist for a complete check-up.

Should we start a campaign for her to go see a doctor?

 

[ritardando]

^
I thought about the same thing as well, it seems like Wakana herself didn't aware of her own condition. I think we really should start that campaign that most likely won't be heard by their management

 

[aero.senpai]

^Yeah, the management would hear, but wouldn't give a damn. Maybe the only effective way would be if we go there and take her to a doctor by force

 

[garnetjester]

Yeah, we need to hope for the best, I just thought it could be a possibility after seeing her struggle so much in After Eden live when compared to previous concerts. Could it be that she's been having symptoms for a while and that's why Hikaru was the main singer in the After Eden album?

About the possibility of a surgery, recently 3 AKB members have gotten vocal nodules surgery (Oshima Yuko, Itano Tomomi, Nakagawa Haruka) and it's all gone well. From the time when I was in medschool and during my time as an intern in otorhinolaringology I remember that people used to recover quite fine from the surgery, so Julie Andrew's case is an axception, more than the rule.

 

[Martin]

Did Wakana do the lead vocal in the live version of After Eden BTW (I'm too lazy to go and check...sorry)? I just recall the vocals on that song sounding really strained, as though she was really fighting to get the words out. Yeah, I hope it's not a serious long-term problem.

 

[garnetjester]

She had her usual lines, but Hikaru got more parts in this album than Wakana who is the usual main singer, maybe it was meant to keep her from straining herself too much?

 

[Martin]

Oops, meant to specify the performance of 'snow falling'. Sorry about that. [headdesk] That made me feel a little uncomfortable to listen to, while the album version does the opposite.

 

[ritardando]

Yeah, she is the lead/main vocal for snow falling.

And I think that Hikaru got more lines, but usually opening lines and Wakana take the chorus in high key that even strained her voice more.

 

[ninetales]

Warning: Large Wall Of Text Ahead

I think it's a distinct possibility that Wakana's got nodules, but I also don't think it means complete disaster. A lot of Vis-Kei artists have surgery for that, and return to their bands in a few months with little to no problems. The main questions here are 1: Is she aware of it?, 2: If so, is she going to do something about it?, and 3: Will Sony give her the time she needs to recover?

Sony's been plugging Kala like mad lately, so I seriously doubt they'd be happy if Wakana completely lost her ability and had to leave the group. Although if Maya replaced her, that might make some Maya fans happy... Based on the way they've been treating Kala, I think they'd begrudgingly allow her a break to either rest or have the surgery.

Even if that's the case, though, there's still the question of why Wakana has been struggling for so long with very little change. I'm thinking it's one of four things - she's unaware of it, she's in denial, she feels that taking time off would be detrimental to the group, or Sony's being mildly illogical and refusing to give her time off. The fourth possibility doesn't seem right, given Sony's attitude towards Kala as their big gorgeous unique Gothic group; and since Wakana's been professionally trained, I think that there's a very slim possibility of her being unaware of it or in denial, since she clearly loves singing and doesn't seem like the type to be foolish about it.

So that leaves the third possibility, which I can definitely imagine. As far as I know, Japanese people all have a deep feeling of responsibility towards the group - Wakana might feel that temporarily leaving Kala would be very detrimental toward them and towards Kajiura-sensei as well, which might make her extremely reluctant to do so. In short, she could be sacrificing some of her voice in order to keep supporting the group.

This is all my speculation, so please, don't take it as a prediction of disaster! As for making some sort of a difference, I think that petitioning Sony could work to some extent, as long as we appeal to their business sense - i.e. Wakana having a singing problem would lead to her leaving Kalafina, which if permanent would badly hurt both Kala and Sony's profits from it.

Kajiura-sensei seems to have a bit of pull as well, so sending her messages or a petition through her official site or her Twitter account might help. If anything, I think we should appeal to her as fans, saying that we love Wakana's voice and would hate to see it lost to Kajiura-sensei's future work.

tl;dr: I think the most viable possibility is that Wakana could be having problems and ignoring them, because she doesn't want to inconvenience Kala by leaving them even for a little while. In my opinion, contacting Sony and appealing to their business sense might help, as well as contacting Kajiura-sensei through her official site or Twitter.

 

[ritardando]

I have a same feeling as well, Wakana does realize that there's something wrong with her voice but she doesn't want to be a burden to her friends/management. Although I would say that if she let this condition further, she might can't sing anymore...

I agree that maybe we should tweet Kajiura-sensei, or Kalafina's management, or maybe emailing Sony concerning this matter. Because if they are good enough and listen to their fans, they should take this matter seriously...

Although it's not still confirmed whether Wakana has voice nodule or not, we should say that her voice sounds differently nowadays and we're concerned seeing her straining herself in live performances..

 

[Special_K]

Hmmm...this kinda reminds me of the meme about internet self-diagnosis.....

It will usually end up a hell lot more serious than reality (stuff like everyone's got terminal cancer, gangrene, some form of STD, pneumonia/tuberculosis, etc.)

Kajiura-sensei seems to have a bit of pull as well, so sending her messages or a petition through her official site or her Twitter account might help. If anything, I think we should appeal to her as fans, saying that we love Wakana's voice and would hate to see it lost to Kajiura-sensei's future work.

That seems like the most sensible option we have for now. Of course, a bit of divine intervention (that means prayers for the rest of you) will go a long way too.

Let's just hope for the best! We'll definitely want to see our lovely Wakana basking in the pink of health, don't we?

 

[wintersviolet]

Re:

IIRC Wakana has seriously considered quitting Kalafina before, due to stress and dissatisfaction with her performance. I don't think she'd be above leaving if it would ultimately benefit her health.

Although if Maya replaced her, that might make some Maya fans happy...

In my case, not at all. I'd rather not have Maya back at the expense of another singer's troubles. More importantly I want a 4 person Kalafina, and replacing Wakana with someone else doesn't satisfy that wish.