Lorde-Kowz
I have reached Yuki nirvana
What!? When did she say that!?
What!? When did she say that!?
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wintersviolet
Guest
^ Kalafina Record~
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Special_K
Guest
That's not very pleasant, isn't it?
Lorde-Kowz
I have reached Yuki nirvana
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That's sad, although it's good that she accepts that some of her performances weren't good or not up to par.
wintersviolet said:
That's sad, although it's good that she accepts that some of her performances weren't good or not up to par.
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ninetales
Guest
Wait, what?
Well, I'll have to take a look through her personal interview in the Record and see if she mentions anything along those lines. Personally I think that if she is indeed stressed, then she's forcing herself to stay, since she's been looking extremely tired for the past few months. (Much more so than Keiko, Hikaru, or even Yuriko or Kaori.) After all, I doubt that she can be that tired and not be pretty stressed out too...
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ritardando
Guest
Seriously? But Kala won't be the same without Wakana 
Well, if she already felt that some of her performance was not really good due to stress and she's unsatisfied with it then she should realize that there's something wrong with her condition/voice, right? Then, she should say to their management to let her rest a bit or to Kajiura-sensei to not making a super high song for her to sing. I mean, if she tells us, the fans that she had seriously considered quitting Kala before, the management/producer should know it first and should ask her what's wrong. And if they really consider Wakana as one of their assets, supposedly they will listen to her. I kind of think that their management isn't a good one, now..
Well, if she already felt that some of her performance was not really good due to stress and she's unsatisfied with it then she should realize that there's something wrong with her condition/voice, right? Then, she should say to their management to let her rest a bit or to Kajiura-sensei to not making a super high song for her to sing. I mean, if she tells us, the fans that she had seriously considered quitting Kala before, the management/producer should know it first and should ask her what's wrong. And if they really consider Wakana as one of their assets, supposedly they will listen to her. I kind of think that their management isn't a good one, now..
george1234
Moderator
That discussion is really interesting ^^
I too love Wakana's voice, and I was thinking that these nodules might had been created bythe continious use of her voice the past few years, where from oblivious till Red Moon she was using her voice singing non stop having lead vocals in most of the songs, remember all the lives they had during that time http://canta-per-me.net/lives-2009-2010 not to methion's she's part of FJ too and we should count in the YK lives too their singles and all the rehearsals for both groups.
I was also thinking that the increase of Keiko's lines in After Eden Album&DVD and to the beginning might be due to this too
Personally Im against twits to Yuki since that could make the japanese fans aware too, and I dont know how Sony or Yuki would take that. Emailing would be enough.
I think that if she has this big of a problem they should:
1. stop all the in-between performances and only do tours every 4 months or so.
2. Disband Kalafina after 4th album and make a new one without Wakana in with 2 or more new skillful vocalists which they will keep, since Sony's decision to let Maya quit definitely played a role in it since parts which Maya would be singing if she was staying got loaded onto Wakana.
I too love Wakana's voice, and I was thinking that these nodules might had been created bythe continious use of her voice the past few years, where from oblivious till Red Moon she was using her voice singing non stop having lead vocals in most of the songs, remember all the lives they had during that time http://canta-per-me.net/lives-2009-2010 not to methion's she's part of FJ too and we should count in the YK lives too their singles and all the rehearsals for both groups.
I was also thinking that the increase of Keiko's lines in After Eden Album&DVD and to the beginning might be due to this too
Personally Im against twits to Yuki since that could make the japanese fans aware too, and I dont know how Sony or Yuki would take that. Emailing would be enough.
I think that if she has this big of a problem they should:
1. stop all the in-between performances and only do tours every 4 months or so.
2. Disband Kalafina after 4th album and make a new one without Wakana in with 2 or more new skillful vocalists which they will keep, since Sony's decision to let Maya quit definitely played a role in it since parts which Maya would be singing if she was staying got loaded onto Wakana.
Hime_Wakana
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Wacchan GAMBATTE!!!! With a little 'rest she will return to the best of conditions *____________________*
We love you and love you your divine voice!!
I'm sure everything will be fine! Wakana's voice just needs a little 'rest, after all, she's a soprano and she is normal to tire more than Keiko or Hikaru!
Certainly after the problems she had in previous years, she'll be checking more, and then Yuki-sama is watching over her and all of her singers *____*
We need not worry too
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Ophelia Arcana
Guest
Re: Vocal Ranges of Yuki's Singers
NO! Kalafina wouldn't be the same without Wakana. She is the reason why I became a Yuki Kajiura fan. Not many can sing soprano like her and even if Yuki managed to find another soprano replacement for her it just wouldn't be the same without her. The emotions in all Kalafina songs... I'm a Wakana fan. Her voice dazzled me. One of many reasons I listened to Kalafina/FictionJunction songs every single day.
I pray that Wakana will not quit.
NO!
Kalafina wouldn't be the same without Wakana. She is the reason why I became a Yuki Kajiura fan. Not many can sing soprano like her and even if Yuki managed to find another soprano replacement for her it just wouldn't be the same without her. The emotions in all Kalafina songs... I'm a Wakana fan. Her voice dazzled me. One of many reasons I listened to Kalafina/FictionJunction songs every single day.I pray that Wakana will not quit.
Hime_Wakana
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Me too me too I'm Wakana's fan and in her personal interview does not mention anything like that, and surely she will not leave the group! we are quiet, she needs just a little 'rest and her voice will return as the usual *____*
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garnetjester
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I don't want Wakana to quit either, she's an essential part of the group.
Maybe we should just wait and see what happens or whether we get more information on this matter before deciding on a course of action? If she's really feeling self counscious about her performances enough to consider quitting the group, telling her that her voice sounds weird might just make her feel worse
I mean, I understand the concern (and I am concerned about her as well) but I don't know if contacting them would help, after all, they are all professional musicians and they are the ones who know what is going on, while we're just speculating.
Maybe we should just wait and see what happens or whether we get more information on this matter before deciding on a course of action? If she's really feeling self counscious about her performances enough to consider quitting the group, telling her that her voice sounds weird might just make her feel worse
I mean, I understand the concern (and I am concerned about her as well) but I don't know if contacting them would help, after all, they are all professional musicians and they are the ones who know what is going on, while we're just speculating.
Hime_Wakana
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Minna in Record she's doesen't mention anything about leave the group!! She need only to relax herself and a little 'rest!! And Yuki-sama certainly does not her get too stressed! We'll see that she'll return the same!
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ninetales
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I don't see what would be wrong with Japanese fans becoming aware of the situation - it stands to reason that they would be more aware of Wakana's voice problems, since they're the ones going to the concerts and hearing her sing without editing.
There's no way of knowing whether a large petition would make any difference, but I do think that Kajiura-sensei, and maybe Sony too, would take a big group of comments about Wakana much more seriously. After all, has Sony really shown any interest in advertising Kala worldwide? Having fans from Europe and the Americas be the only ones mentioning Wakana's possible problems would probably not gain their attention very much.
I do agree that emails might be better for now, though. Twitter is a very casual medium, so if there's a more professional way of getting in contact with Kajiura-sensei, I think it should be taken by all means.
I agree on #1, but I strongly disagree on #2. I don't think that Wakana having a lot of recording parts is what caused her problem; before Kala she was still doing various parts and didn't seem to struggle very much. I believe that her problem, if it exists, is caused by the very large amount of Kala/FJ live performances plus those recording parts.
Like I mentioned before, I've heard of a few Vis-Kei singers who've been forced to have surgery for nodules. I think T.M. Revolution also had the problem. But those people are solo singers - they have to sing all the parts in every single one of their songs - and yet they come back and keep performing. T.M. Revolution has close to a female range, he tends to really blast out his voice in live performances, and he's come back and kept performing! If he can do it, I have no doubt that Wakana can.
Like garnetjester said, Wakana is an essential part of Kalafina - if not for the fact that her voice is essential, then for the fact that Sony has by now cemented the image of Kala as being Hikaru, Keiko, and Wakana. I don't believe that having her leave the group would be the best idea, unless she actually wants to retire. But if she wants to stay, then I think that a break from their nonstop live schedule is absolutely necessary.
Then again, though, I also agree with garnetjester in that we don't know for certain what's going on. All we know is that Wakana is showing signs of something a bit worrisome, something different than her performances in the past. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to send an email to Kajiura-sensei asking after Wakana's health, saying "lately we've noticed that Wakana seems to be very tired during performances compared to Hikaru and Keiko, so we're worried about her health" or something equally noncommittal. Although that would most likely get us an answer citing the high notes she has to sing as the cause, or something...
On that note, is Kalafina Club still going? If so, would it be a bad idea to send a message there?
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In my personal opinion, I think this is the message we should send: that we, as fans, are more than willing to sit through a short Kala absence than we are to see Wakana lose her voice entirely, if she does indeed have a problem.
george1234 said:
I don't see what would be wrong with Japanese fans becoming aware of the situation - it stands to reason that they would be more aware of Wakana's voice problems, since they're the ones going to the concerts and hearing her sing without editing.
There's no way of knowing whether a large petition would make any difference, but I do think that Kajiura-sensei, and maybe Sony too, would take a big group of comments about Wakana much more seriously. After all, has Sony really shown any interest in advertising Kala worldwide? Having fans from Europe and the Americas be the only ones mentioning Wakana's possible problems would probably not gain their attention very much.
I do agree that emails might be better for now, though. Twitter is a very casual medium, so if there's a more professional way of getting in contact with Kajiura-sensei, I think it should be taken by all means.
george1234 said:
I agree on #1, but I strongly disagree on #2. I don't think that Wakana having a lot of recording parts is what caused her problem; before Kala she was still doing various parts and didn't seem to struggle very much. I believe that her problem, if it exists, is caused by the very large amount of Kala/FJ live performances plus those recording parts.
Like I mentioned before, I've heard of a few Vis-Kei singers who've been forced to have surgery for nodules. I think T.M. Revolution also had the problem. But those people are solo singers - they have to sing all the parts in every single one of their songs - and yet they come back and keep performing. T.M. Revolution has close to a female range, he tends to really blast out his voice in live performances, and he's come back and kept performing! If he can do it, I have no doubt that Wakana can.
Like garnetjester said, Wakana is an essential part of Kalafina - if not for the fact that her voice is essential, then for the fact that Sony has by now cemented the image of Kala as being Hikaru, Keiko, and Wakana. I don't believe that having her leave the group would be the best idea, unless she actually wants to retire. But if she wants to stay, then I think that a break from their nonstop live schedule is absolutely necessary.
Then again, though, I also agree with garnetjester in that we don't know for certain what's going on. All we know is that Wakana is showing signs of something a bit worrisome, something different than her performances in the past. Perhaps the best thing to do would be to send an email to Kajiura-sensei asking after Wakana's health, saying "lately we've noticed that Wakana seems to be very tired during performances compared to Hikaru and Keiko, so we're worried about her health" or something equally noncommittal. Although that would most likely get us an answer citing the high notes she has to sing as the cause, or something...
On that note, is Kalafina Club still going? If so, would it be a bad idea to send a message there?
EDIT
In my personal opinion, I think this is the message we should send: that we, as fans, are more than willing to sit through a short Kala absence than we are to see Wakana lose her voice entirely, if she does indeed have a problem.
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ritardando
Guest
I'm totally agree with you, because I don't see George's opinion #2 as a good choice for the exact reason as yours, ninetales.
As far as I know, there's a blog post mentioning about a radio show ended, but iirc Keiri said that it's not Kalafina Club. But as far as I know, Kala's radio show is only Kalafina club. Or there's another show?
Sending email to Kalafina Club if it still there seems to be the best opinion, seeing Kala themselves will read it. And that "we've noticed Wakana...." tweet to Kajiura sensei seems to be a good idea.
Although now, hearing Manten I kinda think that it's just (and hopefully) a temporary stress from Wakana. Kajiura used Wakana as main vocal there, so if she feels that there's something wrong with Wakana's voice, then she should re-arrange/write something for a non-Wakana lead song... But still, it could be that Wakana, don't want to be a burden and keep quiet about it. Or maybe it's their contract terms?
As far as I know, there's a blog post mentioning about a radio show ended, but iirc Keiri said that it's not Kalafina Club. But as far as I know, Kala's radio show is only Kalafina club. Or there's another show?
Sending email to Kalafina Club if it still there seems to be the best opinion, seeing Kala themselves will read it. And that "we've noticed Wakana...." tweet to Kajiura sensei seems to be a good idea.
Although now, hearing Manten I kinda think that it's just (and hopefully) a temporary stress from Wakana. Kajiura used Wakana as main vocal there, so if she feels that there's something wrong with Wakana's voice, then she should re-arrange/write something for a non-Wakana lead song... But still, it could be that Wakana, don't want to be a burden and keep quiet about it. Or maybe it's their contract terms?
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ninetales
Guest
^ Yeah, I've been thinking about their contract, too. There's no way of knowing how Sony's got them contracted - it could be something that basically says "you do what we want you to do, when we want you to do it, or you're fired"
Hime_Wakana
I have reached Yuki nirvana
I personally think that Yuki knows what she's doing, that I think is also in her interest to protect the health of her singers!
I heard also the episode of the radio on April 3, and everything is normal, Wakana, I think , is the same as always! And again in the interview of Record says nothing , but an email to Yuki to make sure they're all good, it seems to me a good idea! And a reduction of steps or at least a better organization of the tour stops, could be a positive solution for the future, to avoid excessively stressi for her voice.
Last thing .. we should not worry too much, definitely she will not leave the group! *____*
I heard also the episode of the radio on April 3, and everything is normal, Wakana, I think , is the same as always! And again in the interview of Record says nothing , but an email to Yuki to make sure they're all good, it seems to me a good idea! And a reduction of steps or at least a better organization of the tour stops, could be a positive solution for the future, to avoid excessively stressi for her voice.
Last thing .. we should not worry too much, definitely she will not leave the group! *____*
Hime_Wakana
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Could be both , but I think it is the period, given the commitments with the FJ!
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ritardando
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Yeah.
Contract could be extremely cruel to the artists... But if they are a good label or if their management is good enough, THEY SHOULD PAY ATTENTION MORE TO THEIR ARTIST AND THEIR HEALTH/MENTAL CONDITION...
/sorry for caps lock
Let's tweet to Kajiura-sensei~~
@HimeWakana : She won't leave the group could have 2 meaning. First she doesn't want to, or the second, she wanted to but couldn't to their contract...
Contract could be extremely cruel to the artists... But if they are a good label or if their management is good enough, THEY SHOULD PAY ATTENTION MORE TO THEIR ARTIST AND THEIR HEALTH/MENTAL CONDITION...
/sorry for caps lock
Let's tweet to Kajiura-sensei~~
@HimeWakana : She won't leave the group could have 2 meaning. First she doesn't want to, or the second, she wanted to but couldn't to their contract...
Hime_Wakana
I have reached Yuki nirvana
I hope neither of these things çAAAç I think also for the relationship it has created with the group, wants to finish her career with Kalafina and FJ!!
I agree with you that we could write to Yuki to take better care of her singers!
I agree with you that we could write to Yuki to take better care of her singers!
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Ophelia Arcana
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I agree that Wakana is an essential part of Kalafina. If Wakana quits, I don't think I'll ever have the heart to listen to the new Kalafina or new FictionJunction anymore. If Wakana thinks she's unnoticed, actually from my point of view she's the most noticed member when it comes to voices compared to Keiko and Hikaru. Keiko is noticed most probably because she's cute and Hikaru has personality. It's the voice that matters in the music industry. Um... no offense of Keiko and Hikaru's fans. I like them too.
From my observation, in almost all of Kalafina's songs, Wakana had the biggest part altogether. Keiko had the least. Hikaru, moderate. I know Wakana is stressed and her thoughts of quitting is probably just a temporary stress. GANBATTE, WAKANA!
garnetjester said:I don't want Wakana to quit either, she's an essential part of the group.
Maybe we should just wait and see what happens or whether we get more information on this matter before deciding on a course of action? If she's really feeling self counscious about her performances enough to consider quitting the group, telling her that her voice sounds weird might just make her feel worse
I mean, I understand the concern (and I am concerned about her as well) but I don't know if contacting them would help, after all, they are all professional musicians and they are the ones who know what is going on, while we're just speculating.
I agree that Wakana is an essential part of Kalafina. If Wakana quits, I don't think I'll ever have the heart to listen to the new Kalafina or new FictionJunction anymore. If Wakana thinks she's unnoticed, actually from my point of view she's the most noticed member when it comes to voices compared to Keiko and Hikaru. Keiko is noticed most probably because she's cute and Hikaru has personality. It's the voice that matters in the music industry. Um... no offense of Keiko and Hikaru's fans. I like them too.
From my observation, in almost all of Kalafina's songs, Wakana had the biggest part altogether. Keiko had the least. Hikaru, moderate. I know Wakana is stressed and her thoughts of quitting is probably just a temporary stress. GANBATTE, WAKANA!