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Yuki88
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I'm talking about the breathing though *is thrown to the river of life*
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Kagaribi no Hanabira
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. She could touch it better with her chest voice. (but at that point, I think that it's hard to switch to chest voice.)
It may be just my feeling that I think she uses chest voice>head voice..(maybe because I'm more impressed in her chest voice...Orz..), but if we count it song by song..the result may be different.. I accept that recently, she uses so much head voice for Kalafina... (and her part in FJ 4-formation are almost all head voice, but her FJ solo are different.)
I also think that Wakana sang most of Red Moon with her head voice and that 'Saigo no sora' part isn't that good...ritardando said:
. She could touch it better with her chest voice. (but at that point, I think that it's hard to switch to chest voice.) It may be just my feeling that I think she uses chest voice>head voice..(maybe because I'm more impressed in her chest voice...Orz..), but if we count it song by song..the result may be different.. I accept that recently, she uses so much head voice for Kalafina... (and her part in FJ 4-formation are almost all head voice, but her FJ solo are different.)
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Ophelia Arcana
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So, is Wakana using her chest-voice in "Mizu no Akashi"? Sounds like she is. How did she make her voice echoes in that song?
Kagaribi no Hanabira said:I also think that Wakana sang most of Red Moon with her head voice and that 'Saigo no sora' part isn't that good...ritardando said:
It may be just my feeling that I think she uses chest voice>head voice..(maybe because I'm more impressed in her chest voice...Orz..), but if we count it song by song..the result may be different.. I accept that recently, she uses so much head voice for Kalafina... (and her part in FJ 4-formation are almost all head voice, but her FJ solo are different.)
So, is Wakana using her chest-voice in "Mizu no Akashi"? Sounds like she is. How did she make her voice echoes in that song?
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garnetjester
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Those might be added reverberation effects by the manipulator with her microphone, I'd say
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Ophelia Arcana
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Hahaha.
Then which song did Wakana use chest-voice? I would say she used them in most previous albums, not in TTB or AE.
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Hahaha.
Then which song did Wakana use chest-voice? I would say she used them in most previous albums, not in TTB or AE.
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murrue02
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I'm sorry to sound like an idiot, but how can you really tell if it's head voice, chest voice or diaphragm?
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Ophelia Arcana
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I don't know how people tell the differences but I tell the differences by the strength of the vibratos produced. Like in the last line of the first stanza in "Kizuato", I think Wakana really used chest-voice. Chest-voice is usually used by soprano/opera singers like Sarah Brightman. Head-voice is what my music teacher called "fake voice". Like Hikaru's child-like voice in "Storia". That's my opinion.
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Cerise
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Well, to me, chest voice sounds more like 'shouting' or 'belting' the higher notes out, whereas with head voice it sounds more like the sound is coming from your throat, e.g. it sounds like you sort of 'narrow' or 'pinch' your throat to hit higher notes (I guess?) I'm pretty sure low notes in chest voice just sound more powerful than low notes in head voice... 
But there's probably a more technical way to tell them apart. It's probably different for particular singers as well; some people it's easy to tell apart their head/chest voice cos they just sound a bit different, but with others it might be harder to tell if their head/chest voices sound quite similar 
But there's probably a more technical way to tell them apart. It's probably different for particular singers as well; some people it's easy to tell apart their head/chest voice cos they just sound a bit different, but with others it might be harder to tell if their head/chest voices sound quite similar
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Ophelia Arcana
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Exactly. Head-voice comes from the throat whereas chest-voice comes from the chest/diaphragm. Sometimes head-voice and chest-voice sounded the same. Can anyone tell the differences FJ Yuuka's head-voice and chest-voice?
Cerise said:Well, to me, chest voice sounds more like 'shouting' or 'belting' the higher notes out, whereas with head voice it sounds more like the sound is coming from your throat, e.g. it sounds like you sort of 'narrow' or 'pinch' your throat to hit higher notes (I guess?) I'm pretty sure low notes in chest voice just sound more powerful than low notes in head voice...
Exactly. Head-voice comes from the throat whereas chest-voice comes from the chest/diaphragm. Sometimes head-voice and chest-voice sounded the same. Can anyone tell the differences FJ Yuuka's head-voice and chest-voice?
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Ophelia Arcana
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http://www.aussievocalcoach.com/articles/highnotes.pdf
I just want to share this little information.
I just want to share this little information.
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murrue02
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Thank you for answering Ophelia Arcana and Cerise, I love music but I'm not into choir, so I guess I have limited knowledge on chest voice and head voice or how to tell them apart.
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ringomori
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Don't mean to revive a half-dead thread, sorry >< I'd like to clarify with what I understand about the registers.
About the chest/throat/head registers, wiki tells me that the proper term for "throat voice" is passaggio. Having taken a few years of voice lessons in bel canto style, I'm kinda ashamed to not know that...
The diaphragm is a muscle right under the lungs; it can power up any register if used well.
Starting from the very lowest register moving up, there's:
> chest voice: where you're most relaxed and where most people (maybe not cute-sounding girls) talk from. Produces a powerful sound.
> throat voice/passaggio: comfortable singing range, the domain of most pop singers, and where they like to stay without moving up unless necessary. If there's strain in higher notes without sounding floaty, the singer is pushing the limits of this register. Volume usually fades in the lower notes.
> head voice: the difference between throat voice and is very noticeable in most pop singers (including the FJ girls). Usually floaty-sounding unless this register is specifically trained. But very satisfying and comfortable to produce a loud sound here when trained!
I couldn't hear Wakana using chest voice in Ashita no Keshiki, but she steps into her head voice at "uchi" around 1:30.
Hopefully this helps!
About the chest/throat/head registers, wiki tells me that the proper term for "throat voice" is passaggio. Having taken a few years of voice lessons in bel canto style, I'm kinda ashamed to not know that...
The diaphragm is a muscle right under the lungs; it can power up any register if used well.
Starting from the very lowest register moving up, there's:
> chest voice: where you're most relaxed and where most people (maybe not cute-sounding girls) talk from. Produces a powerful sound.
> throat voice/passaggio: comfortable singing range, the domain of most pop singers, and where they like to stay without moving up unless necessary. If there's strain in higher notes without sounding floaty, the singer is pushing the limits of this register. Volume usually fades in the lower notes.
> head voice: the difference between throat voice and is very noticeable in most pop singers (including the FJ girls). Usually floaty-sounding unless this register is specifically trained. But very satisfying and comfortable to produce a loud sound here when trained!
I couldn't hear Wakana using chest voice in Ashita no Keshiki, but she steps into her head voice at "uchi" around 1:30.
Hopefully this helps!
Lorde-Kowz
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^Thanks for the info.
I still can't tell the difference between chest and throat voice.
I still can't tell the difference between chest and throat voice.
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murrue02
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^I saw a video of a voice teacher explaining it by singing.
Lorde-Kowz
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Give video plox.
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Alphard Sokaina
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It's about chest and head, not chest and throat voice, but still thanks. I hope to find a video where all the 3 kinds of voices are explained like thatmurrue02 said:
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murrue02
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^Yes, because I was searching for the difference of chest and head. I'm sorry I forgot to mention what the video was about. ^_^
I'm gonna try search for more vids about the 3.
I'm gonna try search for more vids about the 3.
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Cerise
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Ohhh thanks for the explanation, ringomori and the video murrue...I think I get it now; to me it seems like Keiko uses mostly chest voice, Wakana uses mostly throat voice (maybe why she's more susceptible to over-straining?) and Hikaru uses chest voice on low notes and throat voice on high notes...Keiko and Wakana are a bit harder to tell apart their chest/throat voices than Hikaru...
Here's an interesting and very technical article on voice maturation and associated problems posted by nomakegirl in the Malaysia thread:
http://www.voiceteacher.com/dramatic_soprano.html
Here's an interesting and very technical article on voice maturation and associated problems posted by nomakegirl in the Malaysia thread:
http://www.voiceteacher.com/dramatic_soprano.html
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Mwhlr
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Sorry to resurrect this, but I saw a performance of "I have a dream" that I wanted some opinions on!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Xd1igUO10
I have reasons to believe that the rest of this performance is natural (I won't bore you all unless you really want), regardless of the fact it's an edited live.
However, at 4:25 - That sudden leap from Wakana - Is it just me, or does that sound quite auto-tuney? :P What do we think? Did she miss her big sustained note?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7Xd1igUO10
I have reasons to believe that the rest of this performance is natural (I won't bore you all unless you really want), regardless of the fact it's an edited live.
However, at 4:25 - That sudden leap from Wakana - Is it just me, or does that sound quite auto-tuney? :P What do we think? Did she miss her big sustained note?