Vocal Discussion of Yuki's Singers

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...how about Keiko's 'mukidashi no hontou ga' in sprinter 3-person live version? Is that her head voice? :confu: (Also on the 'deshou' in manten 'kitto hana no sakari deshou' it sounds a bit head-voicey to me, but I don't know) :ohoho:
 
^If I am understanding correctly what head voice is, I don't don't think that the said phrase from sprinter is that. I would say that she uses her head voice mostly in harmonies, like Kagayaku Sora no Shijima ni wa.
 
^but isn't head-voice usually used for higher notes? and Keiko would be singing lower when she's singing harmony, right? So she'd probably be more likely using her chest voice for harmonies? :confu:
 
Oh, guess I confused chest and head voice :XD: So I'm still totally lost, then :XD: :imdead: No clue about Keiko's head voice.
 
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I think Keiko's head voice is the one she uses when she sang the "yeheyee" in vanity live, the "yahahiyahaaa (?)" in cynical world live, and in the end of "red moon", or seventh heaven "mahoroba~~~" . If that's the case, I adore her head voice the most. It still has the power and give the chill down to my spine. :shy:
 
^ ehhh, really?? (Oh gawd lol I really fail at this :desksweat: :XD: ) I thought that was her chest voice but being belted out (at least, for the end of red moon and the wailing part in vanity live...the other two I wasn't sure of)
 
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aero.senpai said:
From what I am understanding by "head voice" from the comments and explanations here, I don't recall Keiko using it in Itokubo, much to the contrary.
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I haven't listened to ItoKubo as well but I just cited some performances that people here commented that it sounds like her 'ItoKubo' voice. (One that I can recall is her voice when she sang Sorairo Days.) So it may be my confusion as well...Orz... Let say that I refer her voice in 'Sorairo Days' perf.. :XD: .

As for Keiko's range IMO:
Almost all part in Kagayaku Sora no Shijima ni wa>>>chest voice.
"yeheyee" in vanity live>>>Mostly chest voice and head voice in some high part.
in the end of "red moon">>>chest voice
'deshou' in manten 'kitto hana no sakari deshou'>>>Maybe the shift from chest voice to head voice. I don't have enough confidence to deal with songs without live perf.. :rain:. The key for what I refer as her 'chest voice' is the thickness and roughness in her voice. They sound too thick and rough to be head voice. It's quite hard to tell for Manten because it's the recording one so you can hear the 'roughness' and 'resonance' less than in the live perf.

P.S. According to wiki, I think what I called 'stamina voice' is classified as chest voice as well. I thought I used the wrong word.... :ohoho: if translate it directly from the term used in my country language, it may be 'abdominal voice'... not sure whether it has the specific term in English or not. (It's the 'chest voice' singing with the force from your abdomen to empower your voice.)
 
(It's the 'chest voice' singing with the force from your abdomen to empower your voice.)
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Yeah, when I read this it feels like it describes what I thought was Keiko's 'belting' using her chest voice, e.g. at the end of red moon, in the wailing part in vanity...it sounds like she pushes it out more from her stomach/chest area rather than from her throat? :confu:
 
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Cerise said:
(It's the 'chest voice' singing with the force from your abdomen to empower your voice.)
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Yeah, when I read this it feels like it describes what I thought was Keiko's 'belting' using her chest voice, e.g. at the end of red moon, in the wailing part in vanity...it sounds like she pushes it out more from her stomach/chest area rather than from her throat? :confu:
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I guess so... :XD: +most parts of "yeheyee" in vanity live are the voice in this kind. But I don't know its exact technical term though...:rain:.
 
I think Keiko uses abdominal breathing as she had dance lesson as well prior to becoming full-fledged singer. :tea:
 
hmm..

i heard that its a basic for a vocalist to use diaphragm when singing :confu:

so i thought all or at least singer just use diaphragm when singing right ? :confu:
 
^I guess not all the times. I don't know for sure, but I guess some of the said "-voices" here doesn't use the diaphragm.
 
I don't think you can do falsetto with a very powerful voice unless you're a super trained opera singer, when the utahimes sing like this they usually sound "thinner" than when they are belting in their comfortable range.
 
@zoa: true that most trained singer should be able to use diafragm breathing for singer, but abdominal isn't bad choice either. Chest voice is the weakest but wakana actually use this very often.
 
^ :ghost: I thought Wakana was the one who used head voice most often? (And Keiko used chest voice most often?) :confu: :confu: :confu:
 
@Cerise IMO, Wakana's singing is Chest voice 50%, Head voice 30%, Falsetto 10%. Wakana uses head voice the most often among all Kalafina girls (coz Hikaru&Keiko barely use it), but if consider only on herself, she still uses chest voice more than head voice.
 
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Cerise said:
^ :ghost: I thought Wakana was the one who used head voice most often? (And Keiko used chest voice most often?) :confu: :confu: :confu:
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Depends on the songs they sing. I know Wakana used both head-voice and chest-voice in "Ashita no Keshiki".
 
^Oh, I get it...thanks for explaining, Kagiribi and Ophelia! :desksweat: :XD:

/apologies for my slow brain :ohoho:
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I still think that Wakana's singing style is mostly head voice. In red moon "saigo no sora", which is relatively low, we still could see her neck-veins, because as far as I know, someone doesn't have to stretch her throat muscle that much if they're using chest voice...
 
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