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Yuki88
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Lol kazado 
oh, and the long lost forgotten homura celtic bgm is back, btw.
oh, and the long lost forgotten homura celtic bgm is back, btw.
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Kazado
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http://himado.in/41093
http://himado.in/41093
That's good. But forgotten? Is the most played, yokoku theme, lol.Yuki88 said:oh, and the long lost forgotten homura celtic bgm is back, btw.
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Yuki88
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^ I forgot they always play it on the illustration part 
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Kazado
Guest
I will be expecting Homura's theme in OST1, neo-kajiura on stage! yay!
Well, what we already knew about Homura but described graphically.
george1234
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My opinion from ep 10 raw http://himado.in/41093
Musically side, I think we have a new track, alteration of the Eri track again (or was it just a later part of the previous heard alterations ? :huh:
Oh and Magia was played but as BGM
Lesson of the day: Life makes you HARD
So, in short, that episode explains Homura's past. She's tries to save Madoka at the first time but failed so her wish was to travel in time in order to manage to save her, so every time when by various alterations of the sotry Madoka dies Homura goes back again and again and agian. So depressing 
I hope that in the end it will have happy end and history doesnt repeat itself (or Urobushi will go by "you cant avoid destiny") and kill everyone agian 
. Homura turned to be the most tragic character of the series I'm so srry for her :(
I hope that in the end it will have happy end and history doesnt repeat itself (or Urobushi will go by "you cant avoid destiny") and kill everyone agian . Homura turned to be the most tragic character of the series I'm so srry for her :(Oh and Magia was played but as BGM
in a scene-alternate-of-the-pre-OP of ep 1 scene. Oh BTW like someone had said that scene that was in Madoka's dream in ep 1, she was actually watching what happened at the other timeline XD
Lesson of the day: Life makes you HARD
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wintersviolet
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raw out~
EDIT: bleurgh, i'll watch subs before saying anything else
EDIT: bleurgh, i'll watch subs before saying anything else
Nick Hunter
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Oh great...
Last week at this time, I was preparing to attend Sayaka and Kyoko's funeral... Now, according to the spoilers, I'm going to attend Homura's HELL 
IMHO a time loop is not the most abused plotline yet, it is much because of some recent series (coughharuhicough
) that people started shying away from it. I was only worried about how this corresponds with wishes, but... It's so genuinely simple! 
While Kyuubey goes about debating Madoka's world-warping potential, it's really Homerun-chan who becomes a real glitch in the system! 
But for better or for worse? Looks like "Break the cutie" trope has been maxed out before our eyes. And if what I've read is true, it's really disturbing to think that Homura was invloved in this mess practically the same way the current Madoka did...
IMHO a time loop is not the most abused plotline yet, it is much because of some recent series (coughharuhicough
) that people started shying away from it. I was only worried about how this corresponds with wishes, but... It's so genuinely simple! While Kyuubey goes about debating Madoka's world-warping potential, it's really Homerun-chan who becomes a real glitch in the system! But for better or for worse? Looks like "Break the cutie" trope has been maxed out before our eyes. And if what I've read is true, it's really disturbing to think that Homura was invloved in this mess practically the same way the current Madoka did...
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Kazado
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I think is new part of the same track.george1234 said:
I love that kind of plotline and yes, is so abused -not only anime-. And this one is very Tru Calling.Nick Hunter said:
Nick Hunter
I have reached Yuki nirvana
I like it even more now that so far it gives off an impression of not the usual kind, but rather of some algorythm cycle, which adds a spicy flavour. 
But I have to watch the episode at the very least before I can define my thoughts.
What I'm really happy about right now is that HOMURA IS NO FRIGGIN' CAT
But I have to watch the episode at the very least before I can define my thoughts.What I'm really happy about right now is that HOMURA IS NO FRIGGIN' CAT
Lorde-Kowz
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Subs are out. gg was really fast on this episode.
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wintersviolet
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homura + kyouko~
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Rafael-sama
Guest
I'm taking back everything I have ever said about poor little Homura-chan. 
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Kagaribi no Hanabira
Guest
Ah...just finished watching the sub...Homura... .
.I found that Madoka asking in the timeline that she and Homura defeated Walpurgis Night together before Madoka cleaned Homura's soulgem and asked Homura's to stop her from being a witch&from cheated by Kyubey is so cruel for Homura.
Well...Homura intended to repeat everything again and again by herself before that asking, but that promise made her MUST loop everything again and again until the end that she's satisfied (i.e. the end that Madoka want) turns out... poor Homura...and she did all things ALONE...her best friend, Madoka can't remember her, no one knows her, no one understand her, no one know what she tries to do... It's so terrible.... ..Homerun Chan.... .
Well...Homura intended to repeat everything again and again by herself before that asking, but that promise made her MUST loop everything again and again until the end that she's satisfied (i.e. the end that Madoka want) turns out... poor Homura...and she did all things ALONE...her best friend, Madoka can't remember her, no one knows her, no one understand her, no one know what she tries to do... It's so terrible....
..Homerun Chan.... .Nick Hunter
I have reached Yuki nirvana
trolling FTW. No matter how much hope or resolution the lyrics may carry, the overall tune just doesn't coincide with the show anymore.
pulling the episode, the glimpses relieved my remaining fear about Homura (I was afraid to see a visual expy of Behoimi
)yet moar trolling. Seriously...
Personally, I'm preparing to eat my words about her methods of revealing information. Looks like she didn't choose them willingly, but had to stoop to them.
Thankfully, there are almost no complaints about the "predictability" of the show this time around
then again, reading AS...ORLY?
Nick Hunter
I have reached Yuki nirvana
started watching... the first few seconds...
EDIT: Finished watching. Half an hour ago, but
In short,
MAGICAL GIRL GENRE as we know it
1962-2011
R.I.P.
Now somebody explain to me, how come I'm now heed over heels with this show? After all it did to our nerves? Am I mental? Or is that a picture from Animesuki I can now repost?
Dear Animesuki poster, since NONE of these are confirmed, I'm taking you up on this line. 
Actually, I don't believe standard MG series will disappear - but this one will remain a cornerstone in the genre's history. Regardless of the ending - seriously, it has already done an astounding job.
Of course, this episode has bright moments, if you look for them.
, and the music is... 
We get a clearer version of witch hunt track (still no definite guess on the vocalist ), a longer and clearer Homura's theme (April the 27th, come here NOW 
) and another piece of awesomeness... I'm not sure yet if it's a rearrangement or a new track, but it rocks regardless
But where do we go from here? To recap what we've seen:
Conclusion?
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The world is screwed.
Honestly, predicting a positive outcome is a tricky thing here, and the writer doesn't seem too fond of such outcomes to boot. Still, the next episode's title is a cliffhanger in its own right. Let's just wait and see what they've got in store for us...
hospitalized due to HEART DISEASE???????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111 and that's the girl that has to go through things that nearly cause heart attack to the audience?
and that's the girl that has to go through things that nearly cause heart attack to the audience? EDIT: Finished watching. Half an hour ago, but
Homura's cry when she mercy-killed Madoka still linger in my ears 
Darn... just darn... I was even mistaken yesterday about attending Homura's hell instead of Sayaka & Kyouko's funerals... I've actually attended Homura's hell AND their funerals. And my thoughts about Mami (that if Madoka wishes to bring the girls back, she'd better leave Mami to rest in LITERAL peace) have proven to be painfuly true. Her shock is so great we don't even see her participating in the fight against Octavia, and after that... arrrrggh, Kyoooooooooooooookooooooooooooooooo
To hell with time loop "cliches" - it's easy to discuss them, but here, witnessing them is ANOTHER thing. Looks like it's not a glitch either - Homura leaps back in time deliberately. Her device is obviously the manifestation of the power to protect Madoka Kaname, the power she wished for...
The problem is, Homura doesn't seem to question this, but I hereby do: IS THIS POWER INFINITE? And if not, HOW MANY TRIES DOES HOMURA HAVE LEFT? Amazing, Trollobuchi-san, did you escape using a cliche by giving us a time loop that can break anytime regardless of the outcome? The Higurashi all over Japan cry looking at this and realising that those characters' case was nowhere near as screwed in comparison.
Darn... just darn...
I was even mistaken yesterday about attending Homura's hell instead of Sayaka & Kyouko's funerals... I've actually attended Homura's hell AND their funerals. And my thoughts about Mami (that if Madoka wishes to bring the girls back, she'd better leave Mami to rest in LITERAL peace) have proven to be painfuly true. Her shock is so great we don't even see her participating in the fight against Octavia, and after that... arrrrggh, Kyoooooooooooooookooooooooooooooooo To hell with time loop "cliches" - it's easy to discuss them, but here, witnessing them is ANOTHER thing. Looks like it's not a glitch either - Homura leaps back in time deliberately. Her device is obviously the manifestation of the power to protect Madoka Kaname, the power she wished for...
The problem is, Homura doesn't seem to question this, but I hereby do: IS THIS POWER INFINITE? And if not, HOW MANY TRIES DOES HOMURA HAVE LEFT? Amazing, Trollobuchi-san, did you escape using a cliche by giving us a time loop that can break anytime regardless of the outcome? The Higurashi all over Japan cry looking at this and realising that those characters' case was nowhere near as screwed in comparison.
In short,
MAGICAL GIRL GENRE as we know it
1962-2011
R.I.P.
Now somebody explain to me, how come I'm now heed over heels with this show? After all it did to our nerves? Am I mental? Or is that a picture from Animesuki I can now repost?
Dear Animesuki poster, since NONE of these are confirmed, I'm taking you up on this line.
Actually, I don't believe standard MG series will disappear - but this one will remain a cornerstone in the genre's history.
Regardless of the ending - seriously, it has already done an astounding job.Of course, this episode has bright moments, if you look for them.
Puella Magi Madoka Kaname ROCKS, Meganekko Homura is uber-cute, The SailorFuku rope lady is the most WTF-esque witch I've seen in this series so far
We get a clearer version of witch hunt track (still no definite guess on the vocalist ), a longer and clearer Homura's theme (April the 27th, come here NOW ) and another piece of awesomeness... I'm not sure yet if it's a rearrangement or a new track, but it rocks regardless But where do we go from here? To recap what we've seen:
TL1 (original): Madoka teams up with Mami a week before Homura's transfer, they end up saving Homura from the barrier. For Homura, Madoka is pretty much the sourse of admiration we've seen the current Mami be to the current Madoka. Alas...
Madoka: dies, fighting Walpurgis alone. We don't know if she succeeded or the witch merely escaped. Anyhow, Homura survives it, even being a muggle.
Mami: dies in the same battle. at least a heroic death, with her head on
Sayaka: no info, it's possible she didn't even become a PM originally.
And since Mitakihara had two active Puellae Magi, there was obviously no need for Kyoko to arrive.
TL2: Homura's a Puella Magi, still no sighting of Sayaka and Kyoko. Mami's there but seems to die again, and Madoka eshausts her Soul Gem completely, defeating Walpurgis. Judging by Homura's shock when her friend becomes a witch, this timeline had Madoka as the first matured witch in Mitakihara area. dunno if I should cry or feel relieved that it might mean Sayaka and Kyoko being spared again this time (that's not a given, of course), but here's a disturbing point: if we assume Mami met her death in the last battle... We've had THREE magical girls fight Walpurgis, including one REALLY powerful magical girl... and they were BARELY enough! Now, how the heck did Homura plan to fight Walpurgis alone, or even with the help of Kyoko?!!!! Like someone at AS pointed, the only option would be to steal a nuclear warhead.
TL3: the most horrible. Homura tries to warn the girls, but they're sceptical, even more so with our ever-sceptical Sayaka involved and Kyoko arriving to Mitakihara for some reason. Then, Sayaka becomes a witch (details unknown, but since she had been warned about the system, it shouldn't have made an impact equal to the one we've seen - maybe she just burned her powers out this time). It sends things downhill, because Mami snaps and in her madness tries to perform what she believes to be a multiple mercy kill. Madoka... losing two of her friends and killing the third to save the fourth... in her place, I'd probably go witch on the spot. Homura manages to pull her out of despair, but they are once again the only ones to face Walpurgis, cue another Pyrrean victory. I start getting an impression that Walpurgis and the likes of her are effective means to "havest" the magical girls who have been around for too long. 
This time, Madoka herself sends Homura on a mission to prevent her convertion, whereafter we see one of the most painful moments in the whole show
TL4: Homura spends it QB-hunting, plus warning Madoka about suspicious white twerps lurking around in wholesale quantities. Now, things get a little weird due to the time skip: we see Madoka unconversed and Homura defeated by Walpurgis... but from all the other players, at least Mami should have been around by default! Did she die again? Before the Walpurgisnacht or during it? Homura was determined to fight the witches alone, however. Maybe she turned Mami down that time (or Mami caught Homura red-handed over her fluffy friend'suneaten corpse), and then... no info. The ending is also a head-scratcher, with Kyuubey saying that Madoka has defeated her biggest enemy and has no other outcome but to become a witch. Has she already become the witch or is it his pseudophilosophical rant again? Probably the former, though: if it had taken Madoka all her powers to defeat Walpurgis with the help of Homura [and Mami?], the outcome of her fighting alone is a no-brainer.
So, the current timeline (TL-friggin-5!
): Homura has obviously given up on everyone except Madoka. Bad news: Homura was witnessed to kill a cute creature AND Mami's friend before getting a chance to explain (or, rather, she had gotten one... but she chose not to spill the beans in that school corridor, maybe out of fear to mess things up again), Sayaka also had the first impression of her as someone threatening Madoka... where's mah reset button! But Homura is determined to use this timeline to the full extent, regardless of how things proceed.
Madoka: dies, fighting Walpurgis alone. We don't know if she succeeded or the witch merely escaped. Anyhow, Homura survives it, even being a muggle.
Mami: dies in the same battle.
at least a heroic death, with her head on Sayaka: no info, it's possible she didn't even become a PM originally.
And since Mitakihara had two active Puellae Magi, there was obviously no need for Kyoko to arrive.
TL2: Homura's a Puella Magi, still no sighting of Sayaka and Kyoko. Mami's there but seems to die again, and Madoka eshausts her Soul Gem completely, defeating Walpurgis. Judging by Homura's shock when her friend becomes a witch, this timeline had Madoka as the first matured witch in Mitakihara area. dunno if I should cry or feel relieved that it might mean Sayaka and Kyoko being spared again this time (that's not a given, of course), but here's a disturbing point: if we assume Mami met her death in the last battle... We've had THREE magical girls fight Walpurgis, including one REALLY powerful magical girl... and they were BARELY enough! Now, how the heck did Homura plan to fight Walpurgis alone, or even with the help of Kyoko?!!!!
Like someone at AS pointed, the only option would be to steal a nuclear warhead. TL3: the most horrible. Homura tries to warn the girls, but they're sceptical, even more so with our ever-sceptical Sayaka involved and Kyoko arriving to Mitakihara for some reason. Then, Sayaka becomes a witch (details unknown, but since she had been warned about the system, it shouldn't have made an impact equal to the one we've seen - maybe she just burned her powers out this time). It sends things downhill, because Mami snaps and in her madness tries to perform what she believes to be a multiple mercy kill. Madoka... losing two of her friends and killing the third to save the fourth... in her place, I'd probably go witch on the spot.
Homura manages to pull her out of despair, but they are once again the only ones to face Walpurgis, cue another Pyrrean victory. I start getting an impression that Walpurgis and the likes of her are effective means to "havest" the magical girls who have been around for too long. This time, Madoka herself sends Homura on a mission to prevent her convertion, whereafter we see one of the most painful moments in the whole show TL4: Homura spends it QB-hunting, plus warning Madoka about suspicious white twerps lurking around in wholesale quantities. Now, things get a little weird due to the time skip: we see Madoka unconversed and Homura defeated by Walpurgis... but from all the other players, at least Mami should have been around by default! Did she die again? Before the Walpurgisnacht or during it? Homura was determined to fight the witches alone, however. Maybe she turned Mami down that time (or Mami caught Homura red-handed over her fluffy friend's
So, the current timeline (TL-friggin-5!
): Homura has obviously given up on everyone except Madoka. Bad news: Homura was witnessed to kill a cute creature AND Mami's friend before getting a chance to explain (or, rather, she had gotten one... but she chose not to spill the beans in that school corridor, maybe out of fear to mess things up again), Sayaka also had the first impression of her as someone threatening Madoka... where's mah reset button! But Homura is determined to use this timeline to the full extent, regardless of how things proceed.Conclusion?
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The world is screwed.
So far it's hard to predict the outcome (since the events seem different from all previous timelines), but Homura's chances look thin as a webthread.
But what I'm curious about is... what's with the ressurection possibility? Still no confirmation on whether it is possible or not. The only clues are Homura's words about the uselessness of bringing back the dead (which may have reffered to her failed attempts to keep the girls alive in the first place, or to the fact that they will still be resurrected as potential witches) and the fact that Kyuubey didn't offer Homura to revive Madoka in the first place, back in TL1. Of course, he might have just seen it as impractical... but heck, since Madoka died, he didn't harvest anything from her in the first place! Wouldn't rebooting her seem more promising? Then another possibility: Kyuubey's not powerful enough to grant such wishes.It's a stalemate, but only in the case when it's his default power granting the wish rather than Madoka's acquired one (which he himself claims to be much higher). And if Madoka CAN wish her friends back to life... hmmm...
TL1: fail, she doesn't have a wish (makes you wonder what she used it for... not a cake, I hope?)
TL2: ditto
TL3: huh, same old story... Madoka's a PM again. Please, TELL ME it was NOT a cake...
TL4: whammmm. Madoka makes a wish, what is it? Wait, there is no confirmation of her meeting Mami or of Sayaka/Kyoko being even involved - there is no one to resurrect! So, two options: protect Homura-chan (granted) or defeat Walpurgis (granted spectacularly).
TL5: what we've seen in eps 1-9. If Madoka is willing to try her ressurection potential, SHE COULDN'T POSSIBLY FIND A BETTER TIME.
Y'know, that might even turn the tide. Like I said, Mami's better off dead (sorry Mami-san, but it's the sad truth ), but if Sayaka and Kyoko join the ride, there might be significantly less pressure on Madoka. Meaning she has some kind of chance now! 
But the question is, what next? Like I theorised earlier, it wouldn't be unpredictable for the current Madoka to deal with Walpurgis... and commit suicide for fear of becoming another one sooner or later. Ditto for Sayaka and Kyoko if they get through that night (or Madoka might follow Mami's TL3 fate and decisions, although I doubt that). And Homura... we'll skip Homura, you get the idea anyway. except it would be a crowning finale if she found out that TL5 was her LAST attempt indeed. and became a witch from the spiritual collapse.
But what I'm curious about is... what's with the ressurection possibility? Still no confirmation on whether it is possible or not. The only clues are Homura's words about the uselessness of bringing back the dead (which may have reffered to her failed attempts to keep the girls alive in the first place, or to the fact that they will still be resurrected as potential witches) and the fact that Kyuubey didn't offer Homura to revive Madoka in the first place, back in TL1. Of course, he might have just seen it as impractical... but heck, since Madoka died, he didn't harvest anything from her in the first place! Wouldn't rebooting her seem more promising? Then another possibility: Kyuubey's not powerful enough to grant such wishes.It's a stalemate, but only in the case when it's his default power granting the wish rather than Madoka's acquired one (which he himself claims to be much higher). And if Madoka CAN wish her friends back to life... hmmm...
TL1: fail, she doesn't have a wish (makes you wonder what she used it for... not a cake, I hope?)
TL2: ditto
TL3: huh, same old story... Madoka's a PM again. Please, TELL ME it was NOT a cake...
TL4: whammmm. Madoka makes a wish, what is it? Wait, there is no confirmation of her meeting Mami or of Sayaka/Kyoko being even involved - there is no one to resurrect! So, two options: protect Homura-chan (granted) or defeat Walpurgis (granted spectacularly).
TL5: what we've seen in eps 1-9. If Madoka is willing to try her ressurection potential, SHE COULDN'T POSSIBLY FIND A BETTER TIME.
Y'know, that might even turn the tide.
Like I said, Mami's better off dead (sorry Mami-san, but it's the sad truth ), but if Sayaka and Kyoko join the ride, there might be significantly less pressure on Madoka. Meaning she has some kind of chance now! But the question is, what next? Like I theorised earlier, it wouldn't be unpredictable for the current Madoka to deal with Walpurgis... and commit suicide for fear of becoming another one sooner or later. Ditto for Sayaka and Kyoko if they get through that night (or Madoka might follow Mami's TL3 fate and decisions, although I doubt that). And Homura... we'll skip Homura, you get the idea anyway. except it would be a crowning finale if she found out that TL5 was her LAST attempt indeed. and became a witch from the spiritual collapse. Honestly, predicting a positive outcome is a tricky thing here, and the writer doesn't seem too fond of such outcomes to boot.
Still, the next episode's title is a cliffhanger in its own right. Let's just wait and see what they've got in store for us...
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ZERO
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I feel so bad for Homura-chan. We only saw 5 timelines so far, but consider the change in her personality and it's painfully obvious that there were many MANY more. She said it herself earlier, that she'd seen PMs die more than she could count. And I think Homura can only control the time travel so far. As long as Madoka gets screwed she will be sent back, even if she doesn't want to. She'll only be in full control of this power if they can stop Walpurgis Night and save Madoka from becoming a witch.
BTW, my theory of Madoka's dream being an extradimensional travel was right, only ep.1 cuts the dream before the contract is made.
I'm done speculating about how things will turn out. I have NO IDEA!!
BTW, my theory of Madoka's dream being an extradimensional travel was right, only ep.1 cuts the dream before the contract is made.
I'm done speculating about how things will turn out. I have NO IDEA!!
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wintersviolet
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Sorry about the HUGE block of text.
I am still disappointed with the time loop plot- it's been done everywhere and I was hoping for something different. Doesn't help that I'm currently rewatching Higurashi and I keep making Rika-Homura parallels. I'm not going to bother arguing with anyone who tries to debate with me on this.
Besides that, I really liked the execution and pacing of the episode, difficult because there was so much information crammed into it. Meek Homura and confident Madoka was such a big role reversal! I couldn't believe I had to watch Kyouko die again (by Mami's hand, no less), and then witness Madoka killing Mami. Homura's voice actress is amazing, particularly at the part when Homura screamed while destroying Madoka's SG. Music-wise, I loved the track that was playing when Homura defeated the witches single-handedly. And I was like "WOW" at Kyuubey's indifference - "Oh, I got my quota so yay my part here is done, it's up to you and the rest of your race to deal with mega witch-Madoka."
And now we know Homura and Madoka's relationship (as very close friends). Something that really bothers me is that Homura is okay with letting Madoka's friends die (Mami/Sayaka/Kyouko), as long as the person dying isn't Madoka herself. Homura specifically said in this timeline that she regretted not keeping a closer eye on Sayaka (who had become an MG); was that a lie? She killed witch-Sayaka in an earlier time loop, so she knew Sayaka would most likely become the first witch if she contracted.
My friend's friend came up with a theory: that Walpurgis could be Homura-witch from a future timeline (the gears and the monochromatic theme support this idea). However, I wonder why the MGs had to fight Walpurgis before Homura even contracted. Just a thought!
I can't see a way out of Homura's predicament which results in a happy ending for everyone (excluding Kyuubey of course, that horrible little furball). The show's supposed to end on a hopeful note and I love happy endings, but I sincerely hope there won't be some easy cop-out just to finish everything off on a positive note. I gave up trying to guess at what would happen in future episodes a long time ago (there are endless possibilities for everything, haha), but I'm excited to just sit back and watch it all unfold.
Besides that, I really liked the execution and pacing of the episode, difficult because there was so much information crammed into it. Meek Homura and confident Madoka was such a big role reversal! I couldn't believe I had to watch Kyouko die again (by Mami's hand, no less), and then witness Madoka killing Mami. Homura's voice actress is amazing, particularly at the part when Homura screamed while destroying Madoka's SG. Music-wise, I loved the track that was playing when Homura defeated the witches single-handedly. And I was like "WOW" at Kyuubey's indifference - "Oh, I got my quota so yay my part here is done, it's up to you and the rest of your race to deal with mega witch-Madoka."
And now we know Homura and Madoka's relationship (as very close friends). Something that really bothers me is that Homura is okay with letting Madoka's friends die (Mami/Sayaka/Kyouko), as long as the person dying isn't Madoka herself. Homura specifically said in this timeline that she regretted not keeping a closer eye on Sayaka (who had become an MG); was that a lie? She killed witch-Sayaka in an earlier time loop, so she knew Sayaka would most likely become the first witch if she contracted.
My friend's friend came up with a theory: that Walpurgis could be Homura-witch from a future timeline (the gears and the monochromatic theme support this idea). However, I wonder why the MGs had to fight Walpurgis before Homura even contracted. Just a thought!
I can't see a way out of Homura's predicament which results in a happy ending for everyone (excluding Kyuubey of course, that horrible little furball). The show's supposed to end on a hopeful note and I love happy endings, but I sincerely hope there won't be some easy cop-out just to finish everything off on a positive note. I gave up trying to guess at what would happen in future episodes a long time ago (there are endless possibilities for everything, haha), but I'm excited to just sit back and watch it all unfold.
george1234
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BD/DVD vol 5 is now featured on the site. http://www.madoka-magica.com/bddvd/05.html . I wonder if its going to contain vol 2 OST
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Kagaribi no Hanabira
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As for Nich Hunters&wintersviolet post, these are my guess
As for Nich Hunters&wintersviolet post, these are my guess
wintersviolet said:
My guess is Homura didn't lie, but she just didn't care for Sayaka. Coz it isn't every timeloop that Sayaka became a PM. (I think we exactly know that only for the 3rd timeloop.) And the bad result of Sayaka becoming a witch in that timeloop is that they lost Mami and Kyouko who might help them in the final fight. BTW, after that timeloop, Homura decided to dealed with Walpurgis alone, so she won't care about Sayaka's fate.
Also...for the timeloop that Mami didn't join the fight with Walpurgis Night, she might be killed by Charlotte..? The fact that Homura tried to stop her from fighting with Charlotte inferred that Mami should be killed by Charlotte at least once in the previous timeloops. I also guess that Mami survived Charlotte fight in timeloop 3 because we have one more PM, Sayaka, and Homura knows this fact from timeloop 2 and decided to deal with it instead of Mami.
BTW..I have a big question that I wondered why no one hasn't asked before....How can Walpurgis ruin the REAL WORLD as it happened in previous timeloops??? The witches we've seen before can do anything only in their barriers, and just be able to control people mind..make them commit a suicide... just that...so how could the world become like that after they fought with Walpurgis Night... ..that witch made someone commit a suicide and bring all people to the death with him/her by bombarding all nuclear sources in the world???? 
Also...for the timeloop that Mami didn't join the fight with Walpurgis Night, she might be killed by Charlotte..? The fact that Homura tried to stop her from fighting with Charlotte inferred that Mami should be killed by Charlotte at least once in the previous timeloops. I also guess that Mami survived Charlotte fight in timeloop 3 because we have one more PM, Sayaka, and Homura knows this fact from timeloop 2 and decided to deal with it instead of Mami.
BTW..I have a big question that I wondered why no one hasn't asked before....How can Walpurgis ruin the REAL WORLD as it happened in previous timeloops??? The witches we've seen before can do anything only in their barriers, and just be able to control people mind..make them commit a suicide... just that...so how could the world become like that after they fought with Walpurgis Night...
..that witch made someone commit a suicide and bring all people to the death with him/her by bombarding all nuclear sources in the world????
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Rafael-sama
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Maybe Walpurgis no Yoru is so damn strong that it has the power to overlap the barrier, damaging the outherworld?