Puella Magi Madoka Magica

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I love the music in PMM its great. Perhaps I'm focusing too much on the storyline and character interactions to care about repetition honestly. By the way what is wrong with quality over quantity? Although it would have been neat if every magical girl had her own transformation song..then again the series is only 12 episodes how many songs were you expecting..seriously. But whatever the series is by far one my favorite anime series ever especially in the magical girl department. :shy:

Poor Sayaka and Kyoko...I almost wanted to cry near the ending when Kyoko said her final speal before annihilating the both of them :cry: . And the incubators are alien invaders :omg: Slightly dampened my feelings but it was pretty insightful! So while humans on earth worry about an energy crisis to fuel their nations aliens are more concerned with maintaining the energy supply of the entire universe..very intriguing. So sad they sacrifice little girls though and use a cute little familiar to tempt them into death. Why don't they harness the souls of dying people? I wonder if that is a possiblity...that way the people are recycled into energy and fuel the universe :XD:

SO does that mean all witches are PMM? I suppose that explains the names then. :cry: So Charlotte obviously loved sweets! I bet her and Kyoko would have been great friends...The 2nd witch Sayaka killed must have dreamed of being a princess or something to that effect. I wish Sayaka would have fought with musical notes instead of damn wheels...that was slightly disappointing :XD:

I knew Hitomi was a skank...and especially Kamijo I hope the wish becomes nulled and he becomes paralyzed all over! Now you have something to complain about than your damn hand...brat. Kamijo is such a twerp.
 
Can't check it from the phone, but the first link is Mami's theme, right? I bet we'll have it soon, since it was played in the first episode. Along with a bunch of other knockout tracks... But I can hardly wait already! :wai: :XD:
For the time being, I ripped some tracks via KMplayer. After looping Mami's theme from ep 3 and trying to hark into it, I can finally bet my hand that it's Eri we hear. :cheer:
 
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@Nick, never felt salva nos/el cazador as repetitive sound. Maybe because they're action themes or because they were played without vocals/instruments. Also they were played in 80% of episodes, the Madoka track has 95%.

Kowz said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atAgyXxA1nc

This song better be included in the first OST.
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Incorrect beginning!
 
well, this is all YMMV territory. :tea: recurring and overrecurring themes are not new to anime music (try Paprika OST, lol :XD:), and Yuki's had her share with Salva Nos, Storm and Fire... Heck, one could even start complaining about Shiki's theme and Storia (btw, both are Sony-related, just like Madoka OST... A pattern? :psst: ). Can't speak about frequency of El Cazador, as I have yet to watch that series. But overall, it's a common thing, despite irritating to some people. Personally, I was alright with hearing Shiki's theme or Salva Nos recurrently, and it's the same here. I'm not bothered by the abuse of the PM theme... Although I can understand those who are. :XD:
 
I updated a sheet of one OST of PMMM on the Unofficial Sheet Music Page, but can't check it right now(it's dawn, and I'm using the PC without permission, thank you very much)..could anybody check what scene the song's from?
 
You guys have to remember that if the songs get repetitive it's not Yuki's fault, she probably composed more than enough to have fresh songs every episode, but it's the music director that places them there.

Also, I see nothing wrong with repetitive themes for certain characters, moments, etc.
 
Yeah, surely there are way more Yuki tracks at the director's disposal then the ones that have been played in the anime so far. And there are only 3 more episodes left, so I don't know what's going to happen to the remaining tracks, unless the director's planning to spew them all out in a barrage for the remaining episodes. :XD:

While the repeating music doesn't bother me THAT much (I'm usually too focused on the storyline anyway to strain my ears for the background noises), I do wish there was more of a variety of the songs played. I think that different music adds a different aspect and color to the scene, and I don't like that I hear the same track every time someone's sad, or giving an explanation, or something.
 
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ZERO said:
You guys have to remember that if the songs get repetitive it's not Yuki's fault
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Who said that? o_O

george1234 said:
If a sound director is able to use 60 songs why would he use only 20?
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Bad director? No... bad anime? No... BAD SCRIPT! :D
Problem here is the structure of the episodes, only certain musics fit.

wintersviolet said:
I do wish there was more of a variety of the songs played. I think that different music adds a different aspect and color to the scene, and I don't like that I hear the same track every time someone's sad, or giving an explanation, or something.
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Music in the first 4 episodes is OK, then, since ep5, depressive and repetitive. Anime requires? Ok, then I don't like the anime.
 
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Kazado said:
george1234 said:
If a sound director is able to use 60 songs why would he use only 20?
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Bad director? No... bad anime? No... BAD SCRIPT! :D
Problem here is the structure of the episodes, only certain musics fit.
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That is not right, there are many scenes where could be used different musics. For example in all the witch-fighting scenes, except eps 3, 8, was used the same music, also the Sayaka vs Kyoko fights could have their own music, the music that was used there was too unfitting imo. Also they could have used more different musics in the sad/explanation scenes, instead of just the Eri track. Last but not least, only Mami seems to have her transformation music (the Hanae song) all the rest are transformed without special music and way too fast (as if we've already seen the full transformation so many time what we got bored of it).
 
The problem with this Eri song is that you hear the same fucking DISTINCT melody some 15 times in the track itself (I didn't really count) so it's not really well composed - Kajiura's fault (seriously, it's just 4 repeats of the same thing - with vocals, with vocals and drums, with flute, with vocals with no variety), and they use the whole thing in every episode as if it was ambient unintrusive background music (which it is not) during dialogue parts - sound director's fault.

"salva nos" and "el cazador" (as examples that were given above) are full songs that were NOT USED as ambient backround music - they were used as all out insert songs as means of pumping up the "action" (lol action in NOIR and El Cazador), much like "Magia" in the first two episodes of Madoka.

(Also don't get me started on El Cazador's sound direction/editing, it was a truly horrible job... but I guess it's only fitting for a horrible show. :P)

If you like this BGM, that's fine - I liked it too the first time I heard it but I've been bored of the melody by the 3rd time it appeared. If you like how it's being used, hurf... In my opinion it's incredibly annoying.
 
Eri's track is perfect, it has a good structure (except the pause, error for a generic BGM).

Btw, El Cazador's sound direction is the same as Noir's, so...


george1234 said:
Also they could have used more different musics in the sad/explanation scenes, instead of just the Eri track.
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Of course, agreed.

george1234 said:
Last but not least, only Mami seems to have her transformation music (the Hanae song) all the rest are transformed without special music and way too fast (as if we've already seen the full transformation so many time what we got bored of it).
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I think the Hanae track is Mami's theme, so that track is dead. This song could be well-spent.
 
I think another likely reason for the disappearance of Mami's theme, as well as absense of transformation themes for other girls. In the first arc, cool trabsformation scenes and themes depicted traditional genre approach, when being a magical girl was a glorious path. By now, this approach has been brutally deconstructed. I still expect a separate transformation theme for Madoka... But I wouldn't hope something as glorious and elated in mood as Mami's theme. Because we know what becoming a magical girl will mean for Madoka.
Regarding Kyoko/Sayaka fights, there have been TWO. With distinctly different music. :XD:
And Eri's track is repeaed at certain points - every time another layer of information is added to the big picture. It also links the evolution of a Puella Magi image in Madoka's eyes - from tough but heroic life to... what it really is. It seems logical enough, and more credible than jokes about incompetent sound direction - Shaft, for one, is NOT known for this, and I doubt they would hire a stubborn fool for their cornerstone production. If they came up with a way of linking through one BGM, however, they likely took into account all he gruntiness it might evoke in the fandom. And if they decided to proceed in spite of it... There's not a damned thing we can do about it, except move PMMM to droplist and forget about its existence. :groucho:
Btw, I don't know what's wrong with the melody. It's Yuki's trademark style, at its usual heights. One may get bored of it (I know people who did :leaf: ), but that's another matter. :tea:
The overall number of tracks is estimated to the size of a standard one-cour OST. I'm more concerned about how the actual soundtrack turns out to be with this volume thing (full BGM set or additional tracks would be great, whereas placing 8-10 tracks together and calling them a "volume" would be a trollish waste of a CD :knife: ). But regardless, this work is turning out to be Petite Cossette level in my view, which is... :nosebleed: :love: :sohappy: and PMMM, despite all the complaints about music usage, is already among the [three] best shows Yuki's ever scored. :dote:
 
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grunty said:
The problem with this Eri song is that you hear the same fucking DISTINCT melody some 15 times in the track itself (I didn't really count) so it's not really well composed - Kajiura's fault (seriously, it's just 4 repeats of the same thing - with vocals, with vocals and drums, with flute, with vocals with no variety), and they use the whole thing in every episode as if it was ambient unintrusive background music (which it is not) during dialogue parts - sound director's fault.
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Not true. At the end of the day, it depends on who holds the money and who has the most say. It would be that person or persons fault but it is rarely the composer's fault when it comes to bgms and soundtracks. Kajiura is probably one of the more popular composers in Japanese anime at the moment but I doubt if even she would have complete control of the music.

She may very well have wrote a full song, it may even have been very moving and beautiful, who knows. Then the director or the executive producers or the studio head or even the network executives, if they are the ones funding the project, can step in and say something stupid like, "I like that one refrain, please loop it." And if they insist, Kajiura will have no choice but to do it because at the end of the day, she is paid to do a job.

Even if Kajiura did write a totally boring piece, in the end, the overall fault will still lie with the director or producer or whoever is in charge. Because this person has the right to change everything or change nothing. And if a piece of music does not work, it is his responsibility to tell the composer to do a better job.

The same goes for the Sound Director, if there is one in Anime production, I'm not sure how it works for them in Japan. It's rarely entirely his fault alone and sometimes not even his fault at all. It really depend on who is in charge.
 
I like the shorter transformations, actually. Back in the good old days when being a Magical Girl seemed lovely the transformation scenes were prolonged, but now they're a bit more realistic.I mean, what are the other characters doing if a girl is twirling around and bits of her costume are appearing on her body, standing there and watching? :XD:
 
I dont have a problem with it. Its just I would want them to show us the full one and then continue with the short ones, like it happened with Mami
 
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wintersviolet said:
I like the shorter transformations, actually. Back in the good old days when being a Magical Girl seemed lovely the transformation scenes were prolonged, but now they're a bit more realistic.I mean, what are the other characters doing if a girl is twirling around and bits of her costume are appearing on her body, standing there and watching? :XD:
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I miss that. :shy:

I'm bored with all the music discussion.... :uh..:
 
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