Puella Magi Madoka Magica

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I don't get it. How can they say the episode was finished hours before airing? And the dubbing part? This is way to foggy!

The dubbing part is often done based on storyboards or rough animation sketches (not that radical, considering that Disney usually records vocies BEFORE even animating anything - but they strive for precise articulation, which has never been a must-do for anime :XD: ).
As to deadlines - we're talking SHAFT here, the studio that manages to release up to three shows per SEASON. It must be a challenging life for the staff, so as a Shaft fan I don't exactly find myself entitled to complain if they fall out of deadlines sometimes or allow some slip-ups in the episodes (since they fix them all anyway for later broadcasts and/or DVD release). Although I was surprised about Madoka, since I remember reading that by January 6 three or four episodes were reported as completed. :confu: That's what made me sure Madoka's production would be complete by now, but seems like it's not. The fixes we saw in this week's NicoNico broadcast of ep 10 show it clearly (God bless the staff for actually adding these fixes in time despite what happened).
So, like I said, the studio must have preferred to delay the episode rather than fall behind the deadline immensely and launch a raw, underanimated episode. After all, it's their first original production in years, and quite successful so far to boot. Not wanting to ruin the impression is understandable. :tea:

Here is the approximate list of airing/delayed shows this week. Judging by that, rumours about content-related delays stop holding water - try convincing me that Madoka Magica is unfit to air at this crisis time, while Bleach and Oreimo (the latter complete with its tsunami scene) are OK. :knife:

That said, I'm still somewhat sad. :XD: This Friday morning, without all the hype and youtube leaks, without new epileptic trees growing at Animesuki and Grunty complaining about music usage here... it feels lonely. :leaf: :XD:

@Kagaribi: it might surely beat the best barrier I've seen so far -
Patricia's one in ep10 :ohoho: :ohoho: :ohoho: :XD: :XD: :XD:

EDIT: judging by the talks on AS, the estimated delay seems to be two weeks, after all. I'm tempted to go hybernate... :sleep: :XD:
My usual luck at work, actually - the FIRST time ever that I try following an ongoing series (not counting One Piece), and... :ohoho:
Anyway, good luck there, Shaft. We still have faith in you. :TdT:

EDIT2: looks like my curiosity about schedules didn't go unanswered: one of the stations, according to this blog, is replacing Madoka with paired episodes of Rio Rainbow Gate. After checking out what that is, I can understand the blogger's fury. :...: :ohoho: Getting loads of fanservice pachinko instead of the conclusion for a brilliant and ill-predictable series you've been following... must be frustrating. :knife:
Oh, and while browsing through the same blog, in another post there's also something related:

Direction and arts, was absolutely stunning. Reason is simple; 4 to 9th episode was not entirely animated by Shaft, but by subcontract with other studios such as Diomedia and Sunrise. However, Shaft seems to be going to animate entire episodes of the last three.

Tough luck is tough. Had the blogger remembered these lines, his latest post would have probably contained fewer suspicions for content-related shutdowns. :plot: Although the content itself may be suggestive indeed - it's hard to doubt massive destruction due to unfold before us in one (if not both) of the remaining episodes. :plot: :plot: :plot:

Anyway, it's WAIT time. :leaf:

:nophoto:
 
Oh lawd. Seems like Shinbo-sensei is considering the possibility of a second season :fwa: :ohoho:
Slice of life spin offs and sequels both sound somewhat dubious to me. On one hand, going for a second season might mean that this one is not going to conclude the story. I'm not sure if I want a franchise extension like Higurashi or NGE Girlfriend of Steel... :spotlight: But on the other hand, Shaft sequels have never failed my expectations until now, and if Gen Urobuchi and Yuki are also brought back to the stand... hey, why not? :gimmeh: :stars: :XD:
ah wait, if it's really slice of life, ther mightbe no Urobuchi this time... unless they want to deconstruct that genre as well :psst:

On another note, these two comics have left me with tears in my eyes. :cry:

beware of spoilers
I said, beware of spoi... ah, whatever
And two more pics to boot:
http://i.imgur.com/7C9j4.gif
http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i259/LillaMysen/b7192f9a6cc1e36e0976ece5bacd4ae0.jpg
 
Oh, Its nice they consider a 2nd season. :sohappy: Tihs mean more Yuki :dote: :dote: although I highly doubt they will make it slice of life, its probably trolling, and they are going to make it sad and desperate again. Werent they saying 1 season would be slice of life before 1st ep of Madoka airs ? :knife: :glasses:
 
Well, if Urobuchi comes up with a story and plot development to match the first season's, count me in. :V: Although I'll probably watch it anyway - any Shinbo/Shaft work ends up in my watchlist, and any Shinbo/Kajiura collaboation is a definite must see for me. :nosebleed:
Trolling... may develop in various ways, though. Before you know it, we may get a very vaguely related story. Kazumi/Orico Magica, anyone? :plot:
Btw, I'm still wondering how those mangas may tie into the plot. Orico at least fetures familiar characters, but Kazumi... :ayashii:
you know, going by the Innocent Malice subtitle, Kazumi's powers and outfit, I can't help wild-mass-guessing over possible connections to PMMM. Like, say,
Kazumi ending up as the entitiy called Walpurgisnacht :omg: :ayashii: :plot:
 
Ok i forgot where i read it, but SHAFT said that it is partially due to earthquake that the broadcast is delayed. Another thing is that SHAFT works till really late, as close a few hrs before the airing of a episode. SOOOO.... :XD: SHAFT said they are taking this opportunity to improve the last to episodes. They said that the drawing for Warlpurgis Night is very very challenging and tough... :uh..: and that if he were to release it now it might be a big disappointment for madoka fans out there :blood:
So only choice for ask is to wait for WALPURGIS NITE
:sohappy:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/20 ... -restraint

this is where i got the info form :ayashii:
 
They said that the drawing for Warlpurgis Night is very very challenging and tough...

Gosh, that sounds like there's something really epic. :stars:
Ok, since the end of March seems like a relatively safe bet (unless Mother Nature decides to mess with Japan again, which I really hope it won't :hide: ). So, presumably 12 days to Madoka. Countdown start. :tea:

Sigh, I might as well keep this thread good'n'spammed in the interim. :psst: Dunno, how about another heartwarming K&S doujin I came across? :ayashii:
 
Madoka Season 2 han? An anime version of that Oriko Magica (I forgot the name :XD: )?

I guess there is no sense in "returning" Madoka to the traditional Mahou Shoujo genre now. Kajiura style doesn't fit with it, anyway, imo.
 
So if SHAFT works until the last minute and are taking advantage of the extra time to work on Madoka some more, would they have released Madoka in its "disappointing" form if they hadn't been delayed? :ghost:
 
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wintersviolet said:
So if SHAFT works until the last minute and are taking advantage of the extra time to work on Madoka some more, would they have released Madoka in its "disappointing" form if they hadn't been delayed? :ghost:

If what we were seeing until now are the "disappointing" versions, I can only expect two EPIC episodes.

Madoka on the verge of becoming the best anime ever.
 
I rewatched the last three episodes. The impact is still strong... :cry: :uh..: :hero: :TdT: But this time I could pay more attention to the music... :nosebleed: the second OST will be boring? Tell me another. :ohoho: :dote:
Btw, after listening to the witch hunt track again, I tried comparing the vocals to those in... Ship of Fools. Now I'm sitting and scratching my head... :ayashii: although Eri's voice in Ship of Fools sounds somewhat different to me... I really need a clearer version. but when we get it, we'll know the singer anyway, right? :ohoho:

So if SHAFT works until the last minute and are taking advantage of the extra time to work on Madoka some more, would they have released Madoka in its "disappointing" form if they hadn't been delayed?

They did seem to step on this rake once, with Bakemonogatari (although apparently it failed to undermine the popularity of that series :sparkleguy: )...

Kajiura style doesn't fit with it, anyway, imo.

IMO, Kajiura style will fit anything once she gets down to work at it. Light-hearted music? See at least a half of Aquarian Age OST, much from Erementar Gerad and Mai-Hime/Otome (and a couple of tracks in Pandora Hearts and Tsubasa Chronicle). Awesome music capable of making a post-apocalyptic beat'em'up remake feel like a heroic epos? See Shin Hokuto no Ken. You want French themes? See Noir. You want Celtic themes? See .hack//SIGN. You want American wild-west flavoured music? See El Cazador. Psychodelic SFX? Kara no Kyoukai. Traditional strings-driven soundtrack? Achilles to Kame. At this point, Yuki Kajiura's career has given birth to an amazingly diverse music library. That's how you get the fame of being one of the best soundtrack composers in your country and worldwide. :hero:

If what we were seeing until now are the "disappointing" versions, I can only expect two EPIC episodes.

Madoka on the verge of becoming the best anime ever.

I'd already call it the best anime of this season, regardess of the outcome. The closest rivals - Gosick and Steins;Gate - are good, but fail to give as much impact and cause so many discussions. And if the ending lives up to the level reached (whereof I fail to have any doubts), ths will be a major candidate for best anime of this year.
As to being [one of] the best anime series ever... It seems beyond discussion. Madoka is a series that takes its genre and completely deconstructs it, subverting tropes, redefining concepts and managing to be a quality, heart-touching story in the meantime. If THAT doesn't qualify as an anime classic, I don't know what does.

offtop: great sig there, Rafael! Looks like sprites from a DS-style JRPG... :dote: (and the very thought of MAdoka JRPG makes me excited :shy: :shy: :shy: )
 
Storywise Madoka doesn't redefine tropes - it is only filled with said tropes. I don't give a shit for ANY of the characters. Stuff is supposed to be sad because they say it's sad. Etc.
 
Agree with grunty. Aside from that, Nick, did you really mean Steins;Gate? Because it isn't for this season, are you talking about theories?
 
Don't think so, since he only said after about Madoka being the best of the year, hence I would assume he meant season as in "this season", not the whole year.
 
Oh, it doesn't touch general story-related tropes, and hardly needs to. :tea: The authors take genre-related tropes and turn them upside down - pretty much what they stated to be aiming at.
As to not giving a shit... I must admit, I liked Evangelion, was impressed by the topics raised, huge intertext and the overall new take on the mecha genre concepts - but never could really feel attached enough to the characters. They are memorable and interesting, and surely deserve compassion... but for me they failed to stand out from the crowd of other memorable and interesting anime characters I've seen. If you ask me about my fave character in NGE, I'll have trouble answering. But these very characters have not only gained fandoms the size of Jupiter, but are also considered influential enough in subsequent tendencies of the industry. And NGE, with all its treasures and flaws, remains a classic, a non-standard approach, a cornerstone in its genre. So will Madoka. But will it be liked by EVERYONE? Hell no. :ohoho: I miserably fail to recall at least ONE piece of fiction that actually is.

Concerning Steins;Gate, I may be too hasty to jump at conclusions indeed. :XD: But... I know the original, and the plot is hardly anything deconstructive OR anything to make you miss your station on the train. :tea: Still looks very good to me, though - and if the adaptation does end up as enticing as PMMM, I'll be only too glad to eat my words. :ayashii: As to the whole year... well, I still keep my expectations for Dantalian no Shoka, but it's only due in July (and as of now, probably even later).
 
The next season has almost no potential candidates, IMO. Steins;Gate the only one. Ao no Exorcist looks like D.Gray-Man (and probably can't get close to the epicness of this story). The other ones are pretty "bleh".


X-Men... Well, it's X-Men. With only 12 episodes.
 
Steins;Gate the only one

Well, it has at least one parallel with Madoka - being (or rather having been originally) written by a Nitroplus writer. :psst:
Aside from that... There's still Shaft, but Maria+Holic will run for Year's best anime awards when Rowan Atkinson runs for the post of a British Prime Minister. Comedies are NOT made to be classics. :XD: And as to Denpa Onna, I still have no definite idea of what it s about. :desksweat: :XD:
 
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KP-X said:
The only thing I know for the next season is that Lotte's Toy will be the worst.

Agreed. But I'm expecting a lot more animes of the same level. Low level.
 
I keep C anime as my Silver linnig. It is Noitamina and it looks weird. It may be good.

Besides that there is nothing too interesting. Maybe I will try the next Shaft project (I'm getting adicted to that studio shows)

But yeah next season don't seems promising at all :uh..:
 
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