Puella Magi Madoka☆Magica OST

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It may be a CM-exclusive track. :ayashii: On the other hand, episodes used some classical music concerning Kamijou (makes sense, since he's a musician, not composer - he's expected to play classical music most of the time), I remember actually confusing one of these tracks in ep 3 for Yuki's one (while my friend, on the contrary, used to think that Octavia's theme was not composed by Yuki).
speaking of which, Kamijou's playing practice in ep 6 is listed at Puella Wiki's music map as "Asshole playing violin". Everybody loves him... :knife: :psst:

Do you remember when...?
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...when we were sure it was Hanae singing? :ohoho:

Prologue to Magia? This one was very short, one use and well worked. I'm very curious.
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It's one of the most expected tracks for me, too. :dote: And I hope it will be longer. :knife:
 
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Yuki88 said:
murrue02 said:
i think it's okie for yuriko joining the kalafina chorus (she's splendid) :sohappy:
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I don't. That makes Kalafina's live imperfect. :blood:
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yuriko's voice adds beauty to the 3-way melody.you think kalafina isn't just about kalafina coz there's yuriko in the shadow (?) :confu:
kalfina live would be nicer at that

Nick Hunter said:
It may be a CM-exclusive track. :ayashii: On the other hand, episodes used some classical music concerning Kamijou (makes sense, since he's a musician, not composer - he's expected to play classical music most of the time), I remember actually confusing one of these tracks in ep 3 for Yuki's one (while my friend, on the contrary, used to think that Octavia's theme was not composed by Yuki).
speaking of which, Kamijou's playing practice in ep 6 is listed at Puella Wiki's music map as "Asshole playing violin". Everybody loves him... :knife: :psst:
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the piece that kamijou plays in the violin might be debussy's (Claude Debussy) since he's his favorite as shown on a certain episode where sayaka bought a cd for him :wash:
 
I don't dislike Yuriko's voice, but if Kajiura's intention is Kalafina = Wakana Keiko Hikaru then she should stop using Yuriko. It's not like she doesn't Yuriko in her other works anyway. I prefer she brings Maya back. :blood:
 
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Yuki88 said:
I don't dislike Yuriko's voice, but if Kajiura's intention is Kalafina = Wakana Keiko Hikaru then she should stop using Yuriko. It's not like she doesn't Yuriko in her other works anyway. I prefer she brings Maya back. :blood:
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I doubt that the presence of Maya can fulfil the missing of Yuriko..:confu:.. Kalafina needs Yuriko when Wakana sings the main vocal and Yuki need a chorus with the key higher than Wakana line..which seems too difficult to assign to Hikaru or Keiko.., but if Maya can do that... (I'm not sure about that...should go back to watch her live again..)
 
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Kagaribi no Hanabira said:
Yuki88 said:
I don't dislike Yuriko's voice, but if Kajiura's intention is Kalafina = Wakana Keiko Hikaru then she should stop using Yuriko. It's not like she doesn't Yuriko in her other works anyway. I prefer she brings Maya back. :blood:
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I doubt that the presence of Maya can fulfil the missing of Yuriko..:confu:.. Kalafina needs Yuriko when Wakana sings the main vocal and Yuki need a chorus with the key higher than Wakana line..which seems too difficult to assign to Hikaru or Keiko.., but if Maya can do that... (I'm not sure about that...should go back to watch her live again..)
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The point isn't whether Maya can fill in Yuriko's shoes or not- the point is why Yuriko is singing in Kalafina songs when Yuriko isn't even an official part of Kalafina. If Yuriko is such a valuable asset to Kalafina songs, then Yuki should add Yuriko to Kalafina if they have such a need of her- but Yuki just won't. When there is a fourth voice added to the studio versions of Kalafina songs, then a live performance by Wakana, Hikaru, and Keiko sounds emptier because it's lacking a voice- one that I think shouldn't even be there unless that voice belongs to a person who is part of Kalafina, and Yuriko isn't.
 
@Kagaribi: What I mean is Kajiura shouldn't have included Yuriko in Kalafina's songs anymore when their formation had become official (4 when there were Maya, 3 after Maya gone). Rest is as wintersviolet said above.
 
the piece that kamijou plays in the violin might be debussy's (Claude Debussy) since he's his favorite as shown on a certain episode where sayaka bought a cd for him
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Huh, it's a bit odd. I assumed that the music playing in ep 3 was from the CD Sayaka had bought (and also the one she had heard him play as a child). But the CD i Claude Debussy, and Puella Wiki claims the ep 3 violin song to belong to Rachmaninov. :confu:

@Kagaribi: What I mean is Kajiura shouldn't have included Yuriko in Kalafina's songs anymore when their formation had become official (4 when there were Maya, 3 after Maya gone). Rest is as wintersviolet said above.
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I understand your debate about live performances, folks, but why nobody complains about the inclusion of Hanae, or of Yuki herself? They don't participate in Kalafina lives either, likewise affecting the performance.
IMHO, it's not even a problem of added vocalists - it's just that Kalafina songs are rather tricky to perform live. There are a lot of harmonies and interlaced vocals that the studio recording smoothes out through careful mixing and multiple tracks. Maintaining a studio quality onstage is considered a pro thing for a musician, but in Kalafina's case, it would be wrenching. That's why I appreciate it when they don't try to copy the studio recording but seek means and tweaks to compensate for it. That also makes live versions more unique and authentic, giving them value on par with originals. :ayashii: Lack of chorus may present a problem nonetheless, but I believe it should be solved by adjusting the live vocal arrangement, not by scrapping the original one. Yuki may not make Yuriko official part of Kalafina because that would make the band closer to the impression of a FictionJunction twin. But if she does use her in the chorus, I trust her to know better. :tea:
 
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Nick Hunter said:
why nobody complains about the inclusion of Hanae, or of Yuki herself? They don't participate in Kalafina lives either, likewise affecting the performance.
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Hanae doesn't participate in ALL Kalafina songs. she's only in... 2? 3 songs?
as for Kajiura's inclusion... I'll say the same as Yuriko's case. She should refrain from doing that. Unless she's going to appear in the live as backing vocal, I don't mind.
 
It's pretty normal to include background singers who aren't part of the group in question, or to "double" the voice of a single singer. I also wouldn't mind less Yuriko in chorus, but Yuki simply adores her voice and I don't think she will stop using her all that soon after all these years.

In the case of Kalafina, I think for the lives they sometimes use these background vocals from CD as well? (like with Lacrimosa) Either way, Kalafina's live performance definitely didn't sound empty to me when I saw it ... they had a lot more power than FictionJunction actually. Quite on the contrary, after seeing Kalafina live, the CD versions of the songs felt empty for a while. Live has just so much more energy ><

Madoka OST is a bit underwhelming ... some nice songs, but very short. Usually Yuki does some complete songs with >3 min and some variation even for BGM, but this time it really sounds like short BGM samples. Maybe they didn't give her as much freedom this time.
 
Freedom is one thing (it depends on whether the director needs some actual transition BGMs to pack into the scene or intends to use full-fledged stuctured instrumentals which he will likely have to adjust the scenes to - as was the case with Bee Train works), but here many tracks are given "as is", indeed. Shinbo obviously goes both ways in the show - he uses almost the whole versions of Sis Puella Magica and Gradus Prohibitus, but only about half of tracks like Credens Justitiam and Terror Adhaerens. So we can't even say if these tracks were abridged for the show or extended for the OST. :XD: But given the length of the respective scenes they were used in, it makes sense, actually. Personally, I wouldn't mind hearing Credens Justitiam for 5 minutes in a row, with bridges and such - but where to place it in the show? Then again, such tracks get an extended version in the CD, so it's always a pity when they don't. :XD: But Yuki did a lot of projects this spring, maybe she just didn't have time for it.
 
What's the problem? Yuriko has been always in the shadow, FJYuuka overall. Yuriko's participation with Kalafina's songs is minimal, tiny. But is true that FictionJunction actual singles include only chorus/background voices by the official member, because Yuriko is official member, lol.
 
She should be at least ONE of the copyright holders, I assume.
Not like anyone seems to ask her about them. :knife: Her songs regularly pop up in TV shows and some events in other countries, and I facefaulted myself when the issue with the Belarusian contestant at Junior Eurovision 2009 was widely discussed in blogs. :...: (at least they changed the arrangement later). But if you're asking about whether she gets her share from Madoka BD sales, it's not far-fetched to assume. :ayashii: :tea:
 
I don't find them 100% similar either, and maybe that's what saved Demidovich (or rather the author of the song) from a big-time scandal. :ohoho: But Undertow IS what pops to my mind when I hear the intro. :desksweat: And they did decide to change it rather than tempt fate...
 
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Nick Hunter said:
I don't find them 100% similar either, and maybe that's what saved Demidovich (or rather the author of the song) from a big-time scandal. :ohoho: But Undertow IS what pops to my mind when I hear the intro. :desksweat: And they did decide to change it rather than tempt fate...
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the intro IS the sitar from undertow, but apart from that there's nothing else from kajiura in the song.

Nick, that kid is creepy :uh..:
 
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