What is your favorite song today?

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ritardando said:
your experience is almost nearly identical to mine I'm choked. I am also not the biggest super junior fan because their songs to me are just plainly weird and mostly annoying, though they do have some good tracks every now and then. Their weirdness is not (for lack of better word), aesthetically weird as f(x). I remember my high school best friends didn't stop listening and talking about Mr.Simple and Bonamana and I was like urgh why those songs are annoying af. But damn yes Kyuhyun can sing so damn well. The best SuJu unit is obv SuJu KRY because their voices together are just wonderful. Their rendition of Himawari no Yakusoku is breathtaking.

also yes to that bit on Kalafina. I nowaday do become more and more skeptic towards Kalafina and Kajiura but I still listen to them and watch their live performance from time to time but mostly their older performances. Kalafina imo should not have those forced and weird choreography. They can just move their bodies following the rhythm or have something much simpler. For example, let's just compare te to te to me to me from Red Moon 2010 live and Red Day 2015. The choreography from their 2010 performance was much better and more fitting to the song compared to the Red Day 2015. Not to mention how stiff the girls looked like when they had to dance their recent choreographies. They concentrated so hard to not mess up and that affects the viewer/audience as well.

I know SM also didn't promote SHINee enough but every other groups seemed to have better promotion compared to f(x), which is the sad truth.

AND OMG THE FIRST EXO SONG I LISTENED TO WAS WOLF TOO :XD: that song is super annoying and generally speaking, just plain horrible and I refuse to listen to them until I play Superstar SMTown (again, I kinda have to thank this game for introducing me to some good Kpop songs though only SM. but then again I was never a big fan of idols from other agencies like JYP and YG). Yes they do have some really good songs that I still didn't remember because I haven't listened to them all that much.

Also agreed on that bit about Taeyeon and SNSD. I haven't listened to their album songs too and only listened to their promotional songs but I think I'm stuck to their Jessica-era, as I don't really like their songs after Jessica got kicked. Party is a hella annoying song and their newest album is as boring as watching white paint drying. The whole Lion Heart single/EP is quite nice though for it has this vintage/retro vibe.

I'm listening to Taemin's Danger as I write this and man do I love his solo works. Danger, Drip Drop, and Play Me are really really good songs. And yes Jonghyun is such a dear and his songs are genuinely gems. Breathe is definitely one of the best ballads I heard since awhile and Sohyang's rendition makes me love that song even more.

It honestly feels so good to have someone to talk about SHINee and f(x) :") I mean most kpop fans nowadays are mostly into Blackpink and BTS. While I'm actually okay with Blackpink (their songs are quite okay but their voices are somewhat annoying to my ears), I totally don't get the hype for BTS. They're not attractive, their songs are annoying, and their attitude turns me off. Not to mention BTS Army is like one of the most vicious and exaggerated fanclub to ever exist.
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Omg are we twins lol :XD:
Agreed on Super Junior though, a lot of their old stuff is just kinda obnoxious and weird, like you said. ('It's you' was good though). I actually like a lot of their more recent releases way more than their older more 'popular' stuff. (I really liked This is Love, Magic, Devil, and Evanesce ) It's a shame Kyuhyun just enlisted in the army though, he's 90% the reason I still listen to Super Junior tbh. But yesss Super Junior KRY is so good. Even though I don't like Sorry Sorry, I really loved Sorry Sorry Answer and their rendition of it.

Completely agree on that Kalafina thing too! I tried showing some of my friends the live performance of Koibito no (because I really liked that performance, vocally wise), but every time Keiko does that super weird and off putting choreography midway through the song, my friends always make fun of it and can never take the rest of the song seriously, which is annoying because I actually really like that song xD
At least Kpop stars are good enough at dancing to make the choreography at least believable, while for Kalafina it's just so stiff and unnatural and bleh

But yes, Wolf is so bad. So so so bad, I don't get what was going through SM's heads when they thought that was a good idea. Monster and Overdose were also kinda obnoxious, but at least Lucky One, Love Me Right, and Sing For You exist.

I'm not familiar with this SM app you keep referencing, should I check it out? I have a soft spot for those super fun and addictive apps lol

Also, I'm with you when it comes to not really liking other companies besides SM. Sure they (apparently) treat their artists better, but I just don't really enjoy the type of music they put out, and at the end of the day, that's the biggest thing that matters to me. Their music just seems super Western influenced (and I don't mean that in a good way), and a good number of it is just rap and hip-hop type stuff, which just really isn't my thing. Their songs never seem to be as musically interesting as SM's songs either.

It's super unfortunate what happened to Jessica though :( I'm not big on their recent releases either, their best era (for me) was probably Genie, Hoot, and Run Devil Run. I loooove all those songs.
I liked Lion Heart's concept too, but the song itself was a bit too repetitive and draggy for my liking.

But OMG yes, all of Taemin's solo stuff, both Korean and Japanese, is literal gold. I've had Sayonara Hitori and Flame of Love on repeat for god knows how long. Out of all his and Jonghyun's solo discography combined, I think there's maybe only 3 tracks I dislike. They're both just so talented and precious I love them so much.

And I know right! Bless these forums :love:
Agreed on Blackpink and BTS as well. I might get hate from some for saying this, but I find the main rapper's voice (Lisa, I think?) in Blackpink super annoying and whenever I hear her voice, it makes me instantly dislike the song even if I might've liked it otherwise.

But BTS, I completely don't get. I don't like a single one of their songs (A ton of them sound just like the awful Western pop music I hear everywhere where I live, like I don't get how people claim that American pop is awful but then all they listen to is BTS and stuff, it's literally almost the exact same), I don't find them attractive either, their voices are annoying (especially the guy with the weird high voice in Blood Sweat and Tears, idk their names). It baffles me that they're so popular when there are so much better and more deserving groups out there that get nowhere near the same amount of love and exposure. And their 'fandom' is actually the most toxic thing I've ever seen, my god.

Favorite song today- Jonghyun- Deja Boo and Taemin-Experience
 
sarasara said:
Omg are we twins lol :XD:
Agreed on Super Junior though, a lot of their old stuff is just kinda obnoxious and weird, like you said. ('It's you' was good though). I actually like a lot of their more recent releases way more than their older more 'popular' stuff. (I really liked This is Love, Magic, Devil, and Evanesce ) It's a shame Kyuhyun just enlisted in the army though, he's 90% the reason I still listen to Super Junior tbh. But yesss Super Junior KRY is so good. Even though I don't like Sorry Sorry, I really loved Sorry Sorry Answer and their rendition of it.

Completely agree on that Kalafina thing too! I tried showing some of my friends the live performance of Koibito no (because I really liked that performance, vocally wise), but every time Keiko does that super weird and off putting choreography midway through the song, my friends always make fun of it and can never take the rest of the song seriously, which is annoying because I actually really like that song xD
At least Kpop stars are good enough at dancing to make the choreography at least believable, while for Kalafina it's just so stiff and unnatural and bleh

But yes, Wolf is so bad. So so so bad, I don't get what was going through SM's heads when they thought that was a good idea. Monster and Overdose were also kinda obnoxious, but at least Lucky One, Love Me Right, and Sing For You exist.

I'm not familiar with this SM app you keep referencing, should I check it out? I have a soft spot for those super fun and addictive apps lol

Also, I'm with you when it comes to not really liking other companies besides SM. Sure they (apparently) treat their artists better, but I just don't really enjoy the type of music they put out, and at the end of the day, that's the biggest thing that matters to me. Their music just seems super Western influenced (and I don't mean that in a good way), and a good number of it is just rap and hip-hop type stuff, which just really isn't my thing. Their songs never seem to be as musically interesting as SM's songs either.

It's super unfortunate what happened to Jessica though :( I'm not big on their recent releases either, their best era (for me) was probably Genie, Hoot, and Run Devil Run. I loooove all those songs.
I liked Lion Heart's concept too, but the song itself was a bit too repetitive and draggy for my liking.

But OMG yes, all of Taemin's solo stuff, both Korean and Japanese, is literal gold. I've had Sayonara Hitori and Flame of Love on repeat for god knows how long. Out of all his and Jonghyun's solo discography combined, I think there's maybe only 3 tracks I dislike. They're both just so talented and precious I love them so much.

And I know right! Bless these forums :love:
Agreed on Blackpink and BTS as well. I might get hate from some for saying this, but I find the main rapper's voice (Lisa, I think?) in Blackpink super annoying and whenever I hear her voice, it makes me instantly dislike the song even if I might've liked it otherwise.

But BTS, I completely don't get. I don't like a single one of their songs (A ton of them sound just like the awful Western pop music I hear everywhere where I live, like I don't get how people claim that American pop is awful but then all they listen to is BTS and stuff, it's literally almost the exact same), I don't find them attractive either, their voices are annoying (especially the guy with the weird high voice in Blood Sweat and Tears, idk their names). It baffles me that they're so popular when there are so much better and more deserving groups out there that get nowhere near the same amount of love and exposure. And their 'fandom' is actually the most toxic thing I've ever seen, my god.

Favorite song today- Jonghyun- Deja Boo and Taemin-Experience
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Superstar SMTown is this rhythm game similar in style to Guitar Hero and Piano Tiles. The only difference is that you play SMTown artists' songs.

Lol we do share so many similarities I tell you. Evanesce is the Suju song that makes me surprised because of how good it actually is - again, the 1st time I heard it was through the aforementioned app lol. Like, wow I can't believe Suju who performed those obnoxious and annoying songs actually performed a really cool song. Same for Devil too.

And I completely agree about that bit of watching Kalafina live. I can't even watch my Kala DVDs on TV because my siblings' would mock those Kalafina movements. They mocked Kalafina even more now that they have choreo since they've mocked Kalafina even when all they did was those intricate hand movements (that I personally liked anyway). I myself feel embarrassed whenever I see their choreo but I grow accustomized to it. That Magia theatric on Arena Live 2016 still makes me laugh because of how over the top it was.

Ikr, JYP's artists' songs are just...plain. Like, they're your standard pop songs you'd hear everywhere. YG's are mostly just plain annoying. I think the only other Kpop idols I liked outside SM are VIXX because they have really cool concepts plus they rock dark songs. When they choose a concept they rock it and they deliver. Another would be Shinhwa who was ex-SM. I have soft spot for those ahjussis, they're just really adorable and their ballad songs are pure gems. Sadly while I really liked both their The Return and The Classic album, their last 2 albums (WE and Unchanging) are kinda disappointing. Still, they have some really good songs there (mostly ballads). Also, This Love and their voguing is the choreo that you wouldn't expect in Kpop scene but they rock it. GOT7 cover didn't do it any justice no matter what their fans would say - I also don't find both GOT7 and Seventeen musics to be appealing.

Lisa's voice (yes her name is Lisa) is totally annoying to my ears too! I hate rappers who rap with that mewling-drawling-like voice be it male or female so...Their other members have unique voices but not the kind of unique that I appreciate. As If It's Your Last is admittedly a really catchy song though. But still, I'd take Red Light or 4 Walls anytime over that song. BTS is just...really annoying. Blood, Sweat, and Tears just screams obnoxious to me. People love them maybe because their songs are really mainstream but because it's Kpop and they danced to it, it somehow becomes much better lmao. And omg their Army neverending war with every other boygroup fans (mostly EXO-L)...

The latest Kpop generation is really disappointing imo. Nothing original, nothing unique, and actually their quality is far inferior to the 2nd and maybe 3rd gen Kpop idols. I'll stick to the aesthetic and the pleasing sounds of f(x) and SHINee, thank you. I'm kinda sad that SHINee seems to lose their popularity more and more since I think more and more boy group came around and become popular (bcs I think most Kpop idols fans would be on the female demography) while girl groups kinda have 'more stability' once they have reached popularity. I kinda want to scream to the young kpop fans: you younger fans should educate yourself and listen to real good music.

It's almost new day here so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne7Bmg6hvFI
f(x) - Love. I really like the lyrics of this song.
 
Huh, interesting to actually see people not understanding the love for BTS, it seems practically everyone who exists is infatuated with them right now. I don't get it either. That said I don't care much for Kpop outside of some 2NE1 and Kara stuff I enjoy from time to time, and both of those groups are dead. Maybe I should check out f(x) since I see them mentioned occasionally under all the BTS spam.
 
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omg no wonder we don't get along. I hate 2NE1 with every core of my body, like they're the only girl group that I can't stand. At all.
 
ritardando said:
Superstar SMTown is this rhythm game similar in style to Guitar Hero and Piano Tiles. The only difference is that you play SMTown artists' songs.

Lol we do share so many similarities I tell you. Evanesce is the Suju song that makes me surprised because of how good it actually is - again, the 1st time I heard it was through the aforementioned app lol. Like, wow I can't believe Suju who performed those obnoxious and annoying songs actually performed a really cool song. Same for Devil too.

And I completely agree about that bit of watching Kalafina live. I can't even watch my Kala DVDs on TV because my siblings' would mock those Kalafina movements. They mocked Kalafina even more now that they have choreo since they've mocked Kalafina even when all they did was those intricate hand movements (that I personally liked anyway). I myself feel embarrassed whenever I see their choreo but I grow accustomized to it. That Magia theatric on Arena Live 2016 still makes me laugh because of how over the top it was.

Ikr, JYP's artists' songs are just...plain. Like, they're your standard pop songs you'd hear everywhere. YG's are mostly just plain annoying. I think the only other Kpop idols I liked outside SM are VIXX because they have really cool concepts plus they rock dark songs. When they choose a concept they rock it and they deliver. Another would be Shinhwa who was ex-SM. I have soft spot for those ahjussis, they're just really adorable and their ballad songs are pure gems. Sadly while I really liked both their The Return and The Classic album, their last 2 albums (WE and Unchanging) are kinda disappointing. Still, they have some really good songs there (mostly ballads). Also, This Love and their voguing is the choreo that you wouldn't expect in Kpop scene but they rock it. GOT7 cover didn't do it any justice no matter what their fans would say - I also don't find both GOT7 and Seventeen musics to be appealing.

Lisa's voice (yes her name is Lisa) is totally annoying to my ears too! I hate rappers who rap with that mewling-drawling-like voice be it male or female so...Their other members have unique voices but not the kind of unique that I appreciate. As If It's Your Last is admittedly a really catchy song though. But still, I'd take Red Light or 4 Walls anytime over that song. BTS is just...really annoying. Blood, Sweat, and Tears just screams obnoxious to me. People love them maybe because their songs are really mainstream but because it's Kpop and they danced to it, it somehow becomes much better lmao. And omg their Army neverending war with every other boygroup fans (mostly EXO-L)...

The latest Kpop generation is really disappointing imo. Nothing original, nothing unique, and actually their quality is far inferior to the 2nd and maybe 3rd gen Kpop idols. I'll stick to the aesthetic and the pleasing sounds of f(x) and SHINee, thank you. I'm kinda sad that SHINee seems to lose their popularity more and more since I think more and more boy group came around and become popular (bcs I think most Kpop idols fans would be on the female demography) while girl groups kinda have 'more stability' once they have reached popularity. I kinda want to scream to the young kpop fans: you younger fans should educate yourself and listen to real good music.

It's almost new day here so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne7Bmg6hvFI
f(x) - Love. I really like the lyrics of this song.
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Haha well I actually checked out the app and now I'm playing it nonstop lol. I'm really impressed by how many songs there are on here, practically everything SM has ever released is there.

Agreed about that Magia live though hahaha, I remember watching that for the first time and I was just like wtf...are we doing this now... It was so extra and honestly, kinda cringey.

Omg agreed about VIXX too!! I remember I went to KCON LA back in 2012 and they performed there, but even though this was around right when they debuted, I was still actually pretty impressed with them (Them and EXO-M were the only good groups there), and now they're one of the only non-SM groups I like. (The other would probably be AKMU, but I only like a very select few of their songs)
Dynamite gives me crazy SHINee vibes, I really dig it. Voodoo Doll was also kinda out there but it surprisingly worked for me. The majority of their songs aren't generic either, which I really appreciate, and like you said, they always have really unique concepts.

I admit I'm not familiar with Shinhwa's music, but I've been meaning to check them out for a while. I am familiar with Eric though, as I actually watched two of his dramas, and was really impressed with his acting (especially in Que Sera Sera), but yeah, I should really get around to listening to Shinhwa one day haha
Agreed on that bit on GOT7 and Seventeen too btw :XD:

Completely agree with everything you said about Black Pink, BTS, and modern Kpop.
I know SHINee is still fairly popular, but they're nowhere near as popular they used to be, which is sad. (Kinda offtopic but I was watching this random YT video where they went around and interviewed a bunch of Korean college students about Kpop, and when they asked 'who is your favorite vocalist', the majority of people said people from BTS and Blackpink, but this one girl said Onew, and the interviewer was like 'oh that's super oldschool huh?' and the girl was all defensive like 'SHINee's not that old!!' and I related so hard to her right there lmao)
I've also noticed that trend of girl groups tending to be more 'stable' in popularity once they've gained more recognition, it's kinda weird.
And yes! Every time I see young Kpop fans (the majority of them are like 12-14) fangirling about how amazing BTS is, it makes me so depressed ugh
I just wanna show them what actual good music is, but usually none of them are ever willing to listen lol
(Oh, and for what it's worth, I also can't stand 2ne1 either :XD:)

Favorite song today-
SHINee- Don't Stop (again)
This song is actually the best thing ever, like the harmonies here are literally perfection
Also, f(x)- Let's Try. I really like Amber's part.
 
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@sarasara you should check Shinhwa's stuff! Kim Dongwan (one of shinhwa member) is still my favorite kpop idol male vocalist - I really like the tone of his voice.

SHINee is still fairly popular but they don't win as many music shows 1st place as they used to be. I was browsing around yesterday and found out that Tell Me What to Do didn't win any 1st place on music shows and I was shocked (I hope this was a mistake because I haven't checked again). That song is great. I admit it has this 90s-early 2000s sound that maybe doesn't as appealing to younger audiences but I like that song simply because of that. Onew and Jonghyun's voices are wonderful on that song.

I think another reason why BTS and Blackpink are extremely popular nowadays is because their "predecessors in style" are either on hiatus (Big Bang) or disbanded already (2NE1) - I mean a lot of people seem to think that Blackpink is the 2nd 2NE1, especially 2NE1 fans and YG stans in general. On side notes lots of 2NE1 fans said that f(x) is SM sad attempt to copy 2NE1 which I honestly laughed at. f(x) is much better than 2NE1 in almost every aspect. also @Seasonreaper did you know that 2NE1 main vocal used horrible technique throughout her career just to produce that unique tone of hers that her voice is now ruined, like Hikaru? Park Bom, just like Hikaru now can't sing in legato anymore - and singing in legato is a basic skill every singer should have. That's why Hikaru imo should not have this "ooh my voice has become like this but I would like to continue working so fans please bear with me" attitude because at this rate Hikaru would completely ruin her voice and she would've forced to retire sooner than we would like. But I know that this is a difficult situation as Hikaru is a part of a group and her absence would force Kalafina to go on a hiatus and Kalafina seems to be on the peak of their popularity. This Hikaru condition kinda make me question Kajiura's role as their producer and Kalafina as a group because Kajiura seemsto be not really taking care of Hikaru's voice and the Kalagirls themselves seems to think that this is just a condition that would pass.

Continuing the topic on Kpop, ever since many SM groups member left a lot of people have become anti-SM if that makes sense lmao. Like they don't want to support any other SM artists even though they're good simply because they don't want to support SM (the agency). I can't really fault them but it just doesn't sit well with me.

fav song of the day: Karma Butterfly - Girls' Generation. I just discover their Japanese only release and omg it's filled with gems.
 
Double post sorry but I really got emotional after listening to SHINee's japanese releases and lots of album tracks that I haven't heard before because HONESTLY THEY'RE SO GOOD GOOD GOD I feel like I've been wasting my time since 2014 waiting for actual good Kalafina release while in fact I could've used those time to listen to f(x) and SHINee's tons of really good songs. I honestly cried a bit because of the sudden injection of good musics. Now that I become their fan both of them are facing insecurities because only God knows when SM will give f(x) another comeback and Onew's lawsuit...

君のせいで - SHINee
 
30minutes night flight-Maaya Sakamoto... this song is absolutely perfect! I love it so much, it's so catchy that you can sing along, been listening to her stuff lately. And also Out Loud by Gabbie Hanna. Please go check it out, it is amazing and I am seeing her again at the end of the month! Squee!
 
ritardando said:
@sarasara you should check Shinhwa's stuff! Kim Dongwan (one of shinhwa member) is still my favorite kpop idol male vocalist - I really like the tone of his voice.

SHINee is still fairly popular but they don't win as many music shows 1st place as they used to be. I was browsing around yesterday and found out that Tell Me What to Do didn't win any 1st place on music shows and I was shocked (I hope this was a mistake because I haven't checked again). That song is great. I admit it has this 90s-early 2000s sound that maybe doesn't as appealing to younger audiences but I like that song simply because of that. Onew and Jonghyun's voices are wonderful on that song.

I think another reason why BTS and Blackpink are extremely popular nowadays is because their "predecessors in style" are either on hiatus (Big Bang) or disbanded already (2NE1) - I mean a lot of people seem to think that Blackpink is the 2nd 2NE1, especially 2NE1 fans and YG stans in general. On side notes lots of 2NE1 fans said that f(x) is SM sad attempt to copy 2NE1 which I honestly laughed at. f(x) is much better than 2NE1 in almost every aspect. also @Seasonreaper did you know that 2NE1 main vocal used horrible technique throughout her career just to produce that unique tone of hers that her voice is now ruined, like Hikaru? Park Bom, just like Hikaru now can't sing in legato anymore - and singing in legato is a basic skill every singer should have. That's why Hikaru imo should not have this "ooh my voice has become like this but I would like to continue working so fans please bear with me" attitude because at this rate Hikaru would completely ruin her voice and she would've forced to retire sooner than we would like. But I know that this is a difficult situation as Hikaru is a part of a group and her absence would force Kalafina to go on a hiatus and Kalafina seems to be on the peak of their popularity. This Hikaru condition kinda make me question Kajiura's role as their producer and Kalafina as a group because Kajiura seemsto be not really taking care of Hikaru's voice and the Kalagirls themselves seems to think that this is just a condition that would pass.

Continuing the topic on Kpop, ever since many SM groups member left a lot of people have become anti-SM if that makes sense lmao. Like they don't want to support any other SM artists even though they're good simply because they don't want to support SM (the agency). I can't really fault them but it just doesn't sit well with me.

fav song of the day: Karma Butterfly - Girls' Generation. I just discover their Japanese only release and omg it's filled with gems.
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I definetely will! What albums of theirs would you recommend?

Agreed about Tell Me What To Do too, it's one of their best singles IMO, even though it did take a few listens to grow on me at first.
Jonghyun and Onew's belting in it are just really good

Yeah, I've heard similar things regarding Big Bang and Blackpink. I've seen many people in forums and stuff say it feels like the only reason they broke up 2ne1 was in order to make room for Blackpink, and while I don't really like either group, I find Blackpink slightly more tolerable than 2ne1 lol, so I guess I'm not really bothered by it? xD
That f(x) and 2ne1 comparison is absolutely retarded though hahaha, who tf seriously thinks that?? F(x) and 2ne1 are on such completely different levels, it's not even fair to compare them

About the anti SM thing too, I've also noticed that. I find it very narrow-minded and shallow tbh. Even though I do kinda understand their line of reasoning, I just think it's a huge wasted opportunity of the chance to listen to some of the best music out there

ritardando said:
Double post sorry but I really got emotional after listening to SHINee's japanese releases and lots of album tracks that I haven't heard before because HONESTLY THEY'RE SO GOOD GOOD GOD I feel like I've been wasting my time since 2014 waiting for actual good Kalafina release while in fact I could've used those time to listen to f(x) and SHINee's tons of really good songs. I honestly cried a bit because of the sudden injection of good musics. Now that I become their fan both of them are facing insecurities because only God knows when SM will give f(x) another comeback and Onew's lawsuit...

君のせいで - SHINee
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LOL I relate to all of this so hard. In the past month or so when I've really been getting back into Kpop after my long hiatus, and I heard all the SHINee and f(x) tracks I'd missed out on over the years I almost had a breakdown because they were all SO GOOD and I was just stuck wondering where all this amazing music had been all my life. I almost cried too hahaha, you're not alone :XD:
SHINee's Japanese releases are quite good too. While I'm admittedly not a huge fan of their earlier Japanese albums (with the exception of Password (and a few others), that song is so underrated), their two most recent albums were really good. I don't think I disliked a single track from either of them. DxDxD, Wishful Thinking, Your Number, Kimi no Sei De, Gentleman, and Moon River Waltz are all so good.

Ugh, that whole Onew situation really depresses me though. It's just so unfortunate what happened, especially since it happened right when I was getting back into SHINee and Kpop.
It's also probably gonna delay the next SHINee comeback for a while now...and this is all right before their 10th anniversary too :/ Seeing them cry and look miserable at the recent Tokyo Dome concert because Onew wasn't there was really hard to watch...

I heard that a possible reason they aren't doing a f(x) comeback anytime soon is because of the political stuff happening with China and South Korea right now (I think it's called THAAD?), and that Victoria sided with China or something? I haven't really been following it, all I heard is that Lay wasn't in the more recent EXO comeback because of something similar. But as EXO has a lot of members, it didn't really affect anything. But if Victoria can't be in the comeback, I doubt it'd be well received, and I really don't think I'd wanna see f(x) with only 3 members :(
Again, this is all speculation though. And at least Victoria is getting a Chinese solo debut soon. (I love your new sig btw :XD:)

Favorite song today- Happiness-Red Velvet.
Probably the only Red Velvet song I genuinely really like lol. The chorus is a bit annoying but the verses have some really good chord progressions and harmonies
Also, Luna- Free Somebody. LUNAAAA :love::love:I heard somewhere she was getting a solo comeback in the winter and I really hope that's true. I just love her so much

Also @Liana_Ilia , thanks for reminding me about 30 minutes night flight! I haven't listened to Maaya in a bit, I kinda forgot how good she is. A lot of her discography is just really really solid (especially her earlier stuff, thanks to Yoko Kanno :D).
 
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@sarasara yes Luna is going to have a comeback this November! it's confirmed since some korean portal site has confirmed this.
That SHINee video made me cry a bit ;_; my poor bby onew. What I really dislike from Korean netizens is that one a celebrity has a scandal they make everything the celebrity does looks scandalous even though they're only doing their normal routines. I stumbled a video some days ago where Taemin said that SHINee will always be a 5-membered group and hoping that Onew would come back with them soon and his spot wouldn't get replaced no matter what (to lazy to search for the history, sorry) and honestly I was really touched.

Yes that situation with China kinda makes it difficult for Chinese Kpop idols to come back to Korea though some are still active in Kpop scene but they got tons of hate iirc. I'm waiting patiently for the day when Victoria and Lay, my two lead dancer biases on f(x) and EXO, to come back with their members on stage. But for now I'd settle for both Victoria and Luna's solo album.

fav song today would be:
f(x) - 12시 25분 (Wish List) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcD99qGekAc) now this is a good christmas jam. I played this song on Superstar SMTown and this song kinda get stuck in my head. Ugh what exquisite harmonies this song has. Sorry Kalafina your christmas album just sounds annoying and not well produced to my ears.
Also, EXO - White Noise (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbpG5lnq-u8). Listening to their albums make me realize that they also have lots of good songs but why do they always pick the most obnoxious tracks for their comeback. They're super popular but I honestly wouldn't give them a try if I hadn't played Superstar SMTown and they kept releasing annoying tracks like Wolf, Lotto, and Ko Ko Bop.
 
ritardando said:
@sarasara yes Luna is going to have a comeback this November! it's confirmed since some korean portal site has confirmed this.
That SHINee video made me cry a bit ;_; my poor bby onew. What I really dislike from Korean netizens is that one a celebrity has a scandal they make everything the celebrity does looks scandalous even though they're only doing their normal routines. I stumbled a video some days ago where Taemin said that SHINee will always be a 5-membered group and hoping that Onew would come back with them soon and his spot wouldn't get replaced no matter what (to lazy to search for the history, sorry) and honestly I was really touched.

Yes that situation with China kinda makes it difficult for Chinese Kpop idols to come back to Korea though some are still active in Kpop scene but they got tons of hate iirc. I'm waiting patiently for the day when Victoria and Lay, my two lead dancer biases on f(x) and EXO, to come back with their members on stage. But for now I'd settle for both Victoria and Luna's solo album.

fav song today would be:
f(x) - 12시 25분 (Wish List) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcD99qGekAc) now this is a good christmas jam. I played this song on Superstar SMTown and this song kinda get stuck in my head. Ugh what exquisite harmonies this song has. Sorry Kalafina your christmas album just sounds annoying and not well produced to my ears.
Also, EXO - White Noise (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbpG5lnq-u8). Listening to their albums make me realize that they also have lots of good songs but why do they always pick the most obnoxious tracks for their comeback. They're super popular but I honestly wouldn't give them a try if I hadn't played Superstar SMTown and they kept releasing annoying tracks like Wolf, Lotto, and Ko Ko Bop.
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IK, poor Onew :(
Completely agree though, that 'scandal' mindset that is so popular in Korea is so stupid and really sad, honestly. I remember that netizens were angry when Taemin said that thing about how SHINee will always be five, because they thought Taemin wasn't taking Onew's case 'seriously' enough, like what else did you want him to do? Not mention Onew at all? Ughh
Taemin's so genuine and innocent, he doesn't deserve this lol

Lol, agreed about that point on EXO though xD
I love like 85-90% of their album tracks, but many of their title songs are just...so annoying. Like wtf even was Lotto. Ko Ko Bop was ok but the really annoying and repetitive dance breaks really ruined the song for me. Power also was really repetitive and booooring lol.

Favorite song today would be:
EXO- First Love
One thing I have to say about EXO is that their ballads/ slower songs are always really good, and often, I like them even more than the upbeat songs on the album, and I'm generally not a ballad person.
Stronger, What is Love, She's Dreaming, Beautiful, What If, Sing for You, and even this song are all just really solid and not at all like those generic Korean ballads that I hear all the time.

Also,
[STATION] Onew X Lee Jin-Ah (Starry Night)
Station is genuinely one of the coolest things SM has ever done. A good majority of the tracks are worth listening to, and it shows SM doesn't mind experimenting with completely different genres of music from time to time. This song sounds very anime-esque, and I love the music video.
 
sarasara said:


IK, poor Onew :(
Completely agree though, that 'scandal' mindset that is so popular in Korea is so stupid and really sad, honestly. I remember that netizens were angry when Taemin said that thing about how SHINee will always be five, because they thought Taemin wasn't taking Onew's case 'seriously' enough, like what else did you want him to do? Not mention Onew at all? Ughh
Taemin's so genuine and innocent, he doesn't deserve this lol

Lol, agreed about that point on EXO though xD
I love like 85-90% of their album tracks, but many of their title songs are just...so annoying. Like wtf even was Lotto. Ko Ko Bop was ok but the really annoying and repetitive dance breaks really ruined the song for me. Power also was really repetitive and booooring lol.

Favorite song today would be:
EXO- First Love
One thing I have to say about EXO is that their ballads/ slower songs are always really good, and often, I like them even more than the upbeat songs on the album, and I'm generally not a ballad person.
Stronger, What is Love, She's Dreaming, Beautiful, What If, Sing for You, and even this song are all just really solid and not at all like those generic Korean ballads that I hear all the time.

Also,
[STATION] Onew X Lee Jin-Ah (Starry Night)
Station is genuinely one of the coolest things SM has ever done. A good majority of the tracks are worth listening to, and it shows SM doesn't mind experimenting with completely different genres of music from time to time. This song sounds very anime-esque, and I love the music video.
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Urgh I just don't get South Korea netizens. I feel like they're really close-minded people. They judge people so easily and once they begin hating they won't stop to the point where some celebs committed suicide.


we have a totally same taste in Kpop songs omg. I completely agree on EXO's ballads being more often than not really good. I'm all for December 2014, My Turn to Cry (which is like super lovely), Heaven, and Sing for You. And YES they do sound much different than typical Korean ballads. They don't always follow the typical dynamics of other Korean ballads where the verses are sung in veryyyy low notes and the chorus is basically an octave jump or even more from the verses and always goes reallyyyy high and loud. SM really does have a great ability to choose the best songs for their artists.

Ko Ko Bop is indeed somewhat better than Lotto and Wolf but idk why that song is quite irritable for me. Maybe because I listened to it while also watching the MV? Kai looked hella annoying in that MV. Power isn't that bad BUT yeaahhh it's hella repetitive and just like we got the power power repeated 100 times and the "turn the music up now nananana" is so cheesy lmao :XD:

It's really a pity that the 3 Chinese members left EXO because in general I like EXO-M more than EXO-K. Luhan has such sweet voice and both Kris and Tao sound better to my ears than Chanyeol and Sehun. And my (somewhat) bias being Lay ofc I like Lay more than Kai lol (we don't need to talk about Chen since he's like one of the best male kpop idol vocalists now).

It's still early here but All Mine - f(x) is what gets me going today. The girls looked really happy in the MV and I really really love Victoria's small parts on the chorus.
 
ritardando said:
Urgh I just don't get South Korea netizens. I feel like they're really close-minded people. They judge people so easily and once they begin hating they won't stop to the point where some celebs committed suicide.


we have a totally same taste in Kpop songs omg. I completely agree on EXO's ballads being more often than not really good. I'm all for December 2014, My Turn to Cry (which is like super lovely), Heaven, and Sing for You. And YES they do sound much different than typical Korean ballads. They don't always follow the typical dynamics of other Korean ballads where the verses are sung in veryyyy low notes and the chorus is basically an octave jump or even more from the verses and always goes reallyyyy high and loud. SM really does have a great ability to choose the best songs for their artists.

Ko Ko Bop is indeed somewhat better than Lotto and Wolf but idk why that song is quite irritable for me. Maybe because I listened to it while also watching the MV? Kai looked hella annoying in that MV. Power isn't that bad BUT yeaahhh it's hella repetitive and just like we got the power power repeated 100 times and the "turn the music up now nananana" is so cheesy lmao :XD:

It's really a pity that the 3 Chinese members left EXO because in general I like EXO-M more than EXO-K. Luhan has such sweet voice and both Kris and Tao sound better to my ears than Chanyeol and Sehun. And my (somewhat) bias being Lay ofc I like Lay more than Kai lol (we don't need to talk about Chen since he's like one of the best male kpop idol vocalists now).

It's still early here but All Mine - f(x) is what gets me going today. The girls looked really happy in the MV and I really really love Victoria's small parts on the chorus.
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Yess agreed! Idk why I don't see EXO's ballads talked about as much as their other stuff because they're really quite lovely, and way better than the majority of the rest of the K-ballads out there. I remember I used to really like K-dramas, but it's so hard for me to watch them nowadays because I absolutely can't stand the soundtracks of 99% of them. Every single one has that absolutely awful and obnoxious ballad song that gets replayed like 20 times within the span of just one episode alone. (I love Jonghyun but this song is literally the most obnoxious thing ever, especially the chorus. idk why he had to sing for this drama...)

Agreed about EXO-M too. Compared to EXO-K, all of their voices are a lot more unique and easily identifiable/differentiable. While I sometimes still struggle differentiating between D.O. and Baekhyun, I can always instantly pinpoint Chen's voice because he has just such an unique tone and timbre and he's my EXO bias by far. (Probably right under Jonghyun and Taemin for being my ultimate bias as well) The fact that he's one of EXO's least popular members makes me sad.
I still prefer Chanyeol to rappers like Rap Monster and Lisa lol, but yes, I like(d) Kris and Tao a lot better too.

Favorite Song Today- EXO- She's Dreaming
R&B Chill EXO is the best.

SHINee- Y.O.U.
This song is so nostalgic for me. This and Romeo+Juliette are two of SHINee's best old songs.
 
@sarasara I knowww Chen is sooo underappreciated I'm so sad. I really really like his voice, he's one of the few male vocalists with somewhat high-pitched tone that still sounds pleasant to my ears. tbh based on that list people's preferences really vary from country to country. I'm just sad that Suho is also among the least popular member because if I were to rank them on their looks only I would place him first lol - but maybe his popularity suffers from being not the best singer and also not the best dancer. As expected Kai and Sehun are the members with the most stable popularity ranking.

:XD: I like Chanyeol much better than Lisa and Rap Monster (sorry to say this but he's definitely the most unattractive Kpop idols I've ever seen in my life) but compared to Kris and Tao I still like Kris and Tao better hehehe

I haven't watched K-drama in so long and tbh I never paid any attention to the OST lol but I definitely know that Goblin song since that drama is veryyy popular. I don't know why people like that song so much...it's so annoying like urgh why

Favorite songs today:
f(x) - Milk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jgHo0oQ4c0

This song has A VERY CLEVER LYRICS. The harmonies and counter melodies on this song is also much better than every Kalafina-FJ songs ever. The arrangement is very nice and the song never gets really repetitive because of the different harmonies and counter melodies on each verses and chorus. I think this is one of the best produced Kpop songs ever.

also
SHINee - Sherlock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kyG5tTZ1iE
I can't get this song out of my head thank to Superstar SMTown lol I looped this song when I cooked dinner tonight
 
ritardando said:
@sarasara I knowww Chen is sooo underappreciated I'm so sad. I really really like his voice, he's one of the few male vocalists with somewhat high-pitched tone that still sounds pleasant to my ears. tbh based on that list people's preferences really vary from country to country. I'm just sad that Suho is also among the least popular member because if I were to rank them on their looks only I would place him first lol - but maybe his popularity suffers from being not the best singer and also not the best dancer. As expected Kai and Sehun are the members with the most stable popularity ranking.

:XD: I like Chanyeol much better than Lisa and Rap Monster (sorry to say this but he's definitely the most unattractive Kpop idols I've ever seen in my life) but compared to Kris and Tao I still like Kris and Tao better hehehe

I haven't watched K-drama in so long and tbh I never paid any attention to the OST lol but I definitely know that Goblin song since that drama is veryyy popular. I don't know why people like that song so much...it's so annoying like urgh why

Favorite songs today:
f(x) - Milk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jgHo0oQ4c0

This song has A VERY CLEVER LYRICS. The harmonies and counter melodies on this song is also much better than every Kalafina-FJ songs ever. The arrangement is very nice and the song never gets really repetitive because of the different harmonies and counter melodies on each verses and chorus. I think this is one of the best produced Kpop songs ever.

also
SHINee - Sherlock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kyG5tTZ1iE
I can't get this song out of my head thank to Superstar SMTown lol I looped this song when I cooked dinner tonight
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Same here! D.O. and Baekhyun are good, but I just prefer Chen wayyyyy more. He's literally the only high pitched Kpop vocalist I can stand. Changmin is meh, and I really don't like that high pitched singer from BTS lol.
Agreed about Suho too :XD:. Him and Chen are tied for me as the most attractive members lol.
You're not missing out when it comes to Goblin btw. The show itself is decent, but the obnoxious soundtrack really ruined a lot of it for me.

But hahaha yes to that bit on Rap Monster. He's honestly...really ugly. (And offtopic but his voice when he speaks English really grates on my nerves lmao) Actually I don't think I consider a single member of BTS to be that attractive, V and Jungkoook are ok, but the rest are kinda bleh.

And yesss about Milk!! It's quickly become one of my alltime favorite f(x) and Kpop songs in general. The harmonies and countermelodys in it are just sooooo good (especially in the second verse, gahh). It's such an unique song too, like I've never heard anything else like it in the realm of Kpop tbh

Favorite Song Today-
Besides Milk, I've been listening to f(x)-Pretty Girl a lot today. I really really like the harmonies throughout the song (f(x) really are the unrivaled queens of harmonies) and Luna's vocals in the chorus is so good. The bridge is the best part of the song by far though.
Also f(x)-Diamond . Awesome countermelody in the verses and Luna's vocals are amazing again. I also really like the arrangmenet of this song, especially in the first verse. Ugh why is f(x) so good.
 
sarasara said:
Same here! D.O. and Baekhyun are good, but I just prefer Chen wayyyyy more. He's literally the only high pitched Kpop vocalist I can stand. Changmin is meh, and I really don't like that high pitched singer from BTS lol.
Agreed about Suho too :XD:. Him and Chen are tied for me as the most attractive members lol.
You're not missing out when it comes to Goblin btw. The show itself is decent, but the obnoxious soundtrack really ruined a lot of it for me.

But hahaha yes to that bit on Rap Monster. He's honestly...really ugly. (And offtopic but his voice when he speaks English really grates on my nerves lmao) Actually I don't think I consider a single member of BTS to be that attractive, V and Jungkoook are ok, but the rest are kinda bleh.

And yesss about Milk!! It's quickly become one of my alltime favorite f(x) and Kpop songs in general. The harmonies and countermelodys in it are just sooooo good (especially in the second verse, gahh). It's such an unique song too, like I've never heard anything else like it in the realm of Kpop tbh

Favorite Song Today-
Besides Milk, I've been listening to f(x)-Pretty Girl a lot today. I really really like the harmonies throughout the song (f(x) really are the unrivaled queens of harmonies) and Luna's vocals in the chorus is so good. The bridge is the best part of the song by far though.
Also f(x)-Diamond . Awesome countermelody in the verses and Luna's vocals are amazing again. I also really like the arrangmenet of this song, especially in the first verse. Ugh why is f(x) so good.
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ikrrrr why do people think Jungkook as really attractive while imo he's pretty standard. he's handsome, yes, but so do tons of other male idols.

and yes honestly f(x) has the best harmonies amongs all kpop groups. most kpop idol groups sing in unison even in the CD version but f(x) puts layers and layers of harmonies their CD version. if only SM promoted them really well, f(x) could've conquered the world. They have the looks, they have the sounds, they have their own style. Tons of Red Velvet stans think that Red Velvet sets many trend but f(x) was the one who puts them on first. Ombre hair? f(x) has done it in 2010 with their NU ABO. Golf skirt that has somehow become a standard for girl groups to perform nowadays? f(x) wore it first in 2013 with their Rum Pum Pum Pum. Honestly if f(x) isn't that popular in Korea I would understand why SM doesn't put any effort on promoting them but they're popular enough. Not to the SNSD standard but their album sales are no jokes even with the abysmal promotion. They have tons of worldwide fans. I'm pretty sure if f(x) holds a concert in Europe or the USA it would sold out because they're freaking popular in the USA and Europe. Everytime I think about f(x) I become so sad. They have sooo much potential but they're wasted.

favorite song today would be:
Beautiful Life - SHINee and Unfair - EXO.
 
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