Vocal Discussion of Yuki's Singers

[Kobalos]

I like to think that the last say on this is from Wakana herself. Unfortunately, she seems to be denying it. But, yes, I got what you mean here.

So would I, but as I noted on the other page, the record label basically controls the artist.

 

[Mwhlr]

Re:

'were wondering if something might be wrong.' I feel that this isn't needed.

Well picked up on! You are absolutely right, I think.

I also agree that, instead of mentioning the forum, you should add your individual names and countries at the bottom (provided enough people are OK with that).

something to suggest that we are not basng our later concern solely on the Vol#9 stream

That's also quite a good point. If it seems like we are basing this simply on the Vol#9 performance as you said, it's very easy to just to put it down to "an off day" or something similar. While I agree that we shouldn't mention a length of time, I think both Bob/Aero are right in that we need SOMETHING that suggests that this has been on our minds for more than 2 days.

This e-mail was written by a group of fans who met through your music. We come from different countries and have been to your lives in Europe, the USA and Asia. We enjoy meeting online to talk about your music and live DVDs.

Firstly, congratulations on your successful 3 day special. Many of us, from all over the world, watched the live stream and enjoyed it very much.


One thing we have noticed, however, is that sometimes Ms. Wakana looks strained whilst singing. Sometimes it appears even painful. We have noticed this at some of the lives we have attended this year.

Does that work any better or is it no good?

We are sorry if this e-mail is inappropriate, but naturally we are a little concerned and would appreciate anything you have to say on the subject.

 

[Descratic]

We would appreciate anything you have to say.

I think, perhaps, it would be better to that out, so we don't seem to be asking for a response. I'm not sure whether it would affect any sort of reaction to the letter, (be it internal, like rest or treatment, or external, like a statement), but I'm afraid that sounding like we want or expect a response (though I know we'd like one) is overstepping the boundaries more than we want/need to.

One thing we have noticed, however, is that sometimes Ms. Wakana looks strained whilst singing. Sometimes it appears even painful. We have noticed this at some of the lives we have attended this year.

Does that work any better or is it no good?

I think that's a really good way to put it, and probably as good as it will get, without mentioning specific lives and risking sounding obsessed. But maybe reword it a bit more, like

Though we enjoyed the lives very much, during some we have attended this year, we have noticed that Ms. Wakana sometimes looks strained whilst singing. Sometimes it even appears to be painful, and we are concerned that something may be wrong, even though we know of her dedication to singing.

It seems to me, that if we take out that we're worried something is wrong, even if it seems like too much assumption on our part, the whole letter kind of becomes pointless. If we don't say that we're worried about her, then why did we send them this letter? To say that we like their lives, but don't like the way Wakana looks when singing?
Perhaps we should mention the change in her voice as well, but I don't know how to word that.

Also, I think it's important to say that we still enjoyed the lives, in case it is something as simple as tiredness, because if it is, we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by making it seem like Wakana's voice ruined the lives for us.

 

[Kobalos]

This e-mail was written by a group of fans who met through your music. We come from different countries and have been to your lives in Europe, the USA and Asia. We keep in contact through the internet and enjoy talking about your new live DVDs and music that we've bought.

Firstly, congratulations on your successful 3 day special! Many of us, from all over the world, watched the live stream and enjoyed it very much. It was nice being able to see the 3 day special live because we have only seen the DVD recordings before.

One thing we have noticed, however, is that at the recent lives we have attended, it seems that Ms. Wakana looks strained often whilst singing. Sometimes it appears even painful. Ms. Wakana still performs very well but it seems like it's more difficult for her recently than before.

We are sorry if this e-mail is inappropriate, but naturally we were a little concerned and were wondering if something might be wrong. We would appreciate anything you have to say.

Many thanks, and with much respect, your fans.

Added stuff about older lives. idk if it's necessarily true so correct me if I'm making wild assumptions.

 

[Boblove321]

Well lots of ideas are being thrown around and I don't think we can use all of them .

It seems to me, that if we take out that we're worried something is wrong, even if it seems like too much assumption on our part, the whole letter kind of becomes pointless. If we don't say that we're worried about her, then why did we send them this letter? To say that we like their lives, but don't like the way Wakana looks when singing?
Perhaps we should mention the change in her voice as well, but I don't know how to word that.

In my opinion the more you write 'concern' and 'worry' the bigger worry Waa-chan and Kajiura-san will get and we don't want SMEJ to cut Waa-chan off Kalafina or do something drastic. But you made a fair point so I guess it's up to whoever is writing this. When I was reading the draft it had a formal tone and that line just made it informal so that's why I commented on it . Something along the lines of:

Although we enjoyed the lives very much, we have noticed that Ms Wakana has been looking strained in some of the lives that we have attended this year. Even though we know of her dedication to singing, we are concerned that in various occasions it appears to be painful .

Also, I think it's important to say that we still enjoyed the lives, in case it is something as simple as tiredness, because if it is, we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings by making it seem like Wakana's voice ruined the lives for us.

I agree with this, after the concern, the letter should end with MADOKA HOPE, the fact that we still enjoy their performances and that we look forward to their future releases and performances.

I think just adding the countries is good enough and like everyone is saying the more countries you add the more international the letter becomes and maybe SMEJ will start loving their KALA fans outside of Japan even more

I'm just throwing ideas

 

[george1234]

I suggest that you shouldn't say you have seen only the DVD recordings, because they are "fixed" so they will wonder from where you heard the non-good sounding Wakana, since according to reports, in both AX and Germany they sung really well, so there remains only 2 real lives to refer to b(Malay, Singap).

 

[Kobalos]

Assuming everyone is fine with the unedited paragraphs now so;

Firstly, congratulations on your successful 3 day special! Many of us, from all over the world, watched the live stream and enjoyed it very much. It was nice being able to see the 3 day special live because a few of us haven't lived close enough to see a live in person yet.

One thing we have noticed, however, is that at the recent lives we have attended, it seems that Ms. Wakana looks strained often whilst singing. Sometimes it appears even painful. Ms. Wakana still performs very well but it seems like it's more difficult for her recently than before and she sometimes sounds more strained.

 

[Boblove321]

Re:

I suggest that you shouldn't say you have seen only the DVD recordings, because they are "fixed" so they will wonder from where you heard the non-good sounding Wakana, since according to reports, in both AX and Germany they sung really well, so there remains only 2 real lives to refer to b(Malay, Singap).

+1 and I liked those edits Kobalos

 

[aero.senpai]

I suggest that you shouldn't say you have seen only the DVD recordings, because they are "fixed" so they will wonder from where you heard the non-good sounding Wakana, since according to reports, in both AX and Germany they sung really well, so there remains only 2 real lives to refer to b(Malay, Singap).

^But reports from whom? I guess it's safe to assume that we are just a minority of fans who are noticing this issue with Wakana's voice. Most of the fans might think it's all alright. If only we could mention where we're taking the concerns from! To me, it would start with her almost collapsing after zodiacal sign in vol.#4. And that's three years ago...And to me, it's noticeable even in magixed releases and albums. But we're not mentioning that, anyway, so forget this lol

Assuming everyone is fine with the unedited paragraphs now so;

Firstly, congratulations on your successful 3 day special! Many of us, from all over the world, watched the live stream and enjoyed it very much. It was nice being able to see the 3 day special live because a few of us haven't lived close enough to see a live in person yet.

One thing we have noticed, however, is that at the recent lives we have attended, it seems that Ms. Wakana looks strained often whilst singing. Sometimes it appears even painful. Ms. Wakana still performs very well but it seems like it's more difficult for her recently than before and she sometimes sounds more strained.

I guess this is fine. But I'm still a little worried about the "recent lives". Isn't there any middle-term between this and "since two or three years ago"? Ah, forget it, I'm just complicating it even more.

 

[Mwhlr]

Re:

I guess this is fine. But I'm still a little worried about the "recent lives". Isn't there any middle-term between this and "since two or three years ago"? Ah, forget it, I'm just complicating it even more.

Bob suggested an alternate paragraph above, so why don't we combine it with what we have to form...

We have enjoyed the lives we attended this year very much, but one thing we have noticed is that sometimes Ms. Wakana looks strained whilst singing. Sometimes it even appears to be painful for her.

Is that a good middle ground? This'll be my last edit for tonight - My brain is getting tired.

 

[Hime_Wakana]

Quote:We have enjoyed the lives we attended this year very much, but one thing we have noticed is that sometimes Ms. Wakana looks strained whilst singing. Sometimes it even appears to be painful for her.

mmm....in this way should be fine.

 

[Cerise]

Re:

I guess this is fine. But I'm still a little worried about the "recent lives". Isn't there any middle-term between this and "since two or three years ago"? Ah, forget it, I'm just complicating it even more.

How about Lisani or Animax from last year? (I think she did okay in those actually...her voice just sounded a bit choppy for some reason...but I dunno if those were Studio Magicked...)

 

[Kobalos]

lmao if it's the animax I'm thinking of

But yes there was definitely at least some studio magic involved last year.

 

[tabete.mio]

wow too many edits while I was away

This e-mail was written by a group of fans who met through your music. We come from different countries and have been to your lives in Europe, the USA and Asia. We keep in contact through the internet and enjoy talking about your new live DVDs and music that we've bought.

Firstly, congratulations on your successful 3 day special! Many of us, from all over the world, watched the live stream and enjoyed it very much. It was nice being able to see the 3 day special live because a few of us have not lived close enough to see one of your live concerts in person yet. (maybe we should try this)

We have enjoyed the lives we attended this year very much, but one thing we have noticed is that sometimes Ms. Wakana looks strained whilst singing. Sometimes it even appears to be painful for her. Wakana still performs very well but it seems like it's more difficult for her recently than before and she sometimes sounds more strained.

We are sorry if this e-mail is inappropriate, but naturally we were a little concerned and were wondering if something might be wrong. We would appreciate anything you have to say.

Many thanks, and with much respect, your fans.

Did I miss anything?

 

[Descratic]

I think that's a great compilation of it all, tabete.mio!

I think you got it all in there, and by this point, I don't envision too much else to put in it- it's probably best to keep it brief like this, just for ease of reading.
It also looks pretty polite and concise now, but also direct, which is (in my opinion) the best approach to something like this.

 

[tabete.mio]

^ I think this is decent as well

This e-mail was written by a group of fans who met through your music. We come from different countries and have been to your lives in Europe, the USA and Asia. We keep in contact through the internet and enjoy talking about your new live DVDs and music that we've bought.

Firstly, congratulations on your successful 3 day special! Many of us, from all over the world, watched the live stream and enjoyed it very much. It was nice being able to see the 3 day special live because a few of us have not lived close enough to see one of your live concerts in person yet.

We have enjoyed the lives we attended this year very much, but one thing we have noticed is that sometimes Ms. Wakana looks strained whilst singing. Sometimes it even appears to be painful for her. Wakana still performs very well but it seems like it's more difficult for her recently than before and she sometimes sounds more strained.

We are sorry if this e-mail is inappropriate, but naturally we were a little concerned and were wondering if something might be wrong. We would appreciate anything you have to say.

That part looks too demanding but I dont know how to rephrase it

Many thanks, and with much respect, your fans.

 

[Cerise]

...how about... "we would be really grateful to hear from you about this..."

Okay, I think I suck at being delicate and eloquent, so I'll stop there

 

[Mwhlr]

Would taking "We would appreciate anything you have to say." out be better? And add a final line afterwards?

This e-mail was written by a group of fans who met through your music. We come from different countries and have been to your lives in Europe, the USA and Asia. We keep in contact through the internet and enjoy talking about your new live DVDs and music that we've bought.

Firstly, congratulations on your successful 3 day special! Many of us, from all over the world, watched the live stream and enjoyed it very much. It was nice being able to see the 3 day special live because a few of us have not lived close enough to see one of your live concerts in person yet.

We have enjoyed the lives we attended this year very much, but one thing we have noticed is that sometimes Ms. Wakana looks strained whilst singing. Sometimes it even appears to be painful for her. Wakana still performs very well but it seems like it's more difficult for her recently than before and she sometimes sounds more strained.

This line repeats itself a bit and could probably be streamlined

We are sorry if this e-mail is inappropriate, but naturally we were a little concerned and were wondering if something might be wrong.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this e-mail... Final line

Kind regards,
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[tabete.mio]

Would taking "We would appreciate anything you have to say." out be better? And add a final line afterwards?

Approved!

This e-mail was written by a group of fans who met through your music. We come from different countries and have been to your lives in Europe, the USA and Asia. We keep in contact through the internet and enjoy talking about your new live DVDs and music that we've bought.

Firstly, congratulations on your successful 3 day special! Many of us, from all over the world, watched the live stream and enjoyed it very much. It was nice being able to see the 3 day special live because a few of us have not lived close enough to see one of your live concerts in person yet. Since we have stated how we enjoyed the live in this paragraph, lets remove the "enjoy" below

With regards to the recent lives we have attended this year, we have noticed that sometimes Ms. Wakana looks strained whilst singing. Sometimes it even appears to be painful for her. Wakana still performs very well but it seems like it's more difficult for her recently than before and she sometimes sounds more strained.

We are sorry if this e-mail is inappropriate, but naturally we were a little concerned and were wondering if something might be wrong.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this e-mail.

Kind regards,
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Wow, a really decent letter we have constructed here

 

[Boblove321]

Re:

This e-mail was written by a group of fans who met through your music. We come from different countries and have been to your lives in Europe, the USA and Asia. We keep in contact through the internet and enjoy talking about your new live DVDs and music that we've bought.

Firstly, congratulations on your successful 3 day special! Many of us, from all over the world, watched the live stream and enjoyed it very much. It was nice being able to see the 3 day special live because a few of us have not lived close enough to see one of your live concerts in person yet. Since we have stated how we enjoyed the live in this paragraph, lets remove the "enjoy" below

With regards to the recent lives we have attended this year, we have noticed that sometimes Ms. Wakana looks strained whilst singing. Sometimes it even appears to be painful for her. Wakana still performs very well but it seems like it's more difficult for her recently than before and she sometimes sounds more strained.

We are sorry if this e-mail is inappropriate, but naturally we were a little concerned and were wondering if something might be wrong.

Thank you very much for taking the time to read this e-mail.

Kind regards,
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Wow, a really decent letter we have constructed here [/quote]

I think it's pretty much ready