Vocal Discussion of Yuki's Singers

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Since when this turn into Kpop things again :XD:

I like the old Dong Bang Shin Ki when they were still awesome. And they surely can sing. At least, Jaejoong can. :sparkleguy:
 
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Yeah, that's right. There is their acapella performance and they surely can sing well. Too bad they have to split up. :/ They're the only K-boyband I've been listening to.

It's just the matter of taste, but it seems that there are quite lot amount of fanatics here who think that all or most Kpop artist are that bad. Personally I think it's totally unwise to think that only Kajiura's utahimes who can sing well. Well, at least it's for me.

Please, no bite. :XD: :dote:
 
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ritardando said:
It's just the matter of taste, but it seems that there are quite lot amount of fanatics here who think that all or most Kpop artist are that bad. Personally I think it's totally unwise to think that only Kajiura's utahimes who can sing well. Well, at least it's for me.

Please, no bite. :XD: :dote:

No bite! You are absolutely right. Saying that K-pop sucks is silly because the genre itself, "K-pop", is a huge umbrella with thousands of groups/musicians under it. That's the problem with the categorization of music - As a songwriter, you get a label slapped on your music, even if it doesn't really fit, which causes your music to be prejudged. Believing that every band/group who have that label is terrible, is a silly opinion.

I don't actually think anyone here has that frame of mind. We were really just talking specifically about the horrible, cookie-cutter K-pop bands. With that said however, we shouldn't be limiting this to Korean music - Churning out terrible copy-paste pop music is a pandemic. If you want any examples, check out Eurovision!

:dote:
 
It's down to Sturgeon's Law I guess; most of what's popular isn't particularly good (the same goes for TV programming too!). I'm not sure about the US but in the UK the majority of what's in the charts is forgettable and disposable but there's some genuinely good stuff amongst it. Some stuff gets well-known BECAUSE it's bad, and similar acts get tarred with the same brush by the media. I dislike shows such as Pop Idol and the X Factor on principle too; it's a rubbish way of nurturing talent and makes the situation worse instead.

Eurovision's strange. Is it deliberately bad in an ironic kind of way? What little I've seen looks like a parody of what it's supposed to be...like it's a joke where I missed the punchline. :confu: It was better when Terry Wogan presented it because his commentary was entertaining on its own! :plot:
 
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Martin said:
Eurovision's strange. Is it deliberately bad in an ironic kind of way? What little I've seen looks like a parody of what it's supposed to be...like it's a joke where I missed the punchline. :confu: It was better when Terry Wogan presented it because his commentary was entertaining on its own! :plot:

Terry Wogan was very funny. :plot:

From what I gather, Eurovision used to be good, but now it's gone off the deep end. I don't think those who enter are deliberately trying to be bad though - have you seen some of the acts? They take it deadly serious. Fortunes are spent on "talent" shows in search of the next Eurovision contender. However, in reality, we all know it's a laughing stock and the organizers probably know it too - What better way to make a load of money off of world-wide TV? When Eastern Bloc countries began entering and voting for one another (I don't know how much this happens now), I think that was when Eurovision, as a proper talent show, started to die (Absolutely nothing against those countries!!!).

Speaking of Eastern music, I listened to all of Red Moon the other day and it surprised me how "Middle-Eastern" it sounded - Try THAT for a segue!

:ohoho:

I've listened to the Kalafina albums backwards - After Eden first and now Red Moon. I think After Eden is brilliant, but after listening to Red Moon, I'm now thinking it's the inferior album - not sure what what general consensus is on the forum.

As I said, I was really surprised by the number of Middle-Eastern/World inspired songs there were on it. They definitely give is an "album" sound and I actually like them quite a lot. The album has a definite "feel", even on the more pop/rock tracks, that After Eden lacks. I think AE's songs are better as standalones, but it lacks that "album sound" - I guess it's whatever you prefer.

The latest Kalafina Record thread gives a really interesting insight into Yuki Kajiura's thought processes for these albums. After Eden was supposed to push the boundaries as far as possible, almost like testing the water to see what listener's limits were. I'd probably have appreciated this fact more if I'd listened to the albums in order!

:ohoho:

What do you guys prefer? Do you prefer an album to simply be a collection of songs or do you like an album to sound like a single body of work in itself? I know this isn't exactly on topic, but I have the feeling this threads purpose has evolved into something beyond the initial discussion.

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Mwhlr said:
Do you prefer an album to simply be a collection of songs or do you like an album to sound like a single body of work in itself?
It depends on what kind of songs the body consits of.
 
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Alphard Sokaina said:
Mwhlr said:
Do you prefer an album to simply be a collection of songs or do you like an album to sound like a single body of work in itself?
It depends on what kind of songs the body consits of.

Of course! If your making an album and decide to give it a particular sound or complicated structure, but the songs suffer because of it, it doesn't benefit it in any way. I think it depends on how far you want to go with it. A good example of would be "The Wall" by Pink Floyd. It's a good album as a body of work, but in terms of individual songs it's terrible. It works, though, because is goes all out in making it clear that it's a rock opera and more than just a collection of songs.


On a side note, I think a Yuki Kajiura Opera would be amazing... 0_0
 
ritardando said:
t's just the matter of taste, but it seems that there are quite lot amount of fanatics here who think that all or most Kpop artist are that bad. Personally I think it's totally unwise to think that only Kajiura's utahimes who can sing well. Well, at least it's for me.

Please, no bite. :XD: :dote:
I know someone personally who thinks like that, when I let her listen to someone who is good, she says it's impossible and it's lipsync. LOL It's not just Yuki's utahimes who can sing well you know.


Alphard Sokaina said:
Mwhlr said:
On a side note, I think a Yuki Kajiura Opera would be amazing... 0_0
My dream is to listen to an opera by Kajiura :dote:
I share the same sentiments. :TdT:
 
Didn't Yuki compose music for a musical? (which...Yuuka was in?) :confu: Or did I dream about that...? :ohoho:

Actually, it'd be really awesome if she composed an album full of musical songs and we could have an YK live in musical format with the girls playing roles whilst singing... :ayashii:

Something tells me a Yuki Kajiura opera would be dark, epic and somehow, inevitably tragic, or at least ending on a bittersweet note... :TdT:
 
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Cerise said:
Didn't Yuki compose music for a musical? (which...Yuuka was in?) :confu: Or did I dream about that...? :ohoho:

Was that Angel Gate?

Something tells me a Yuki Kajiura opera would be dark, epic and somehow, inevitably tragic, or at least ending on a bittersweet note... :TdT:

Want. :psst:
 
I wonder if she'd hire a few male vocalists, then, if she wrote an opera...? :ayashii:
 
I am totally available for the post, since I only talk 10% for a day which means my vocal chords is not damaged. :ohoho:
 
^ that would be SO AWESOME. But wouldn't she be more likely to get Tokyo Konsei for a song that needs a crowd of people singing? :XD:

Even the drunken bar song in a Kajiura opera will be epic in one way or another :ohoho:
 
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Cerise said:
I wonder if she'd hire a few male vocalists, then, if she wrote an opera...? :ayashii:
It could be still only with female characters :ohoho:
 
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