Puella Magi Madoka Magica

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I can't see that image, Moichi. :uh..:

Sure Madoka is a best seller... :plot:

My dictionary isn't large enough to find adjectives to this anime, seriously.

It's so cantia martia vitya lalala! :XD:
 
:uh..: I didn't liked The innocent malice's first chapter. It's... Boring.
Kazumi is so... Nothing... Even when compared with Madoka in Episodes 01~11. Also, where's that Jyubey?
 
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Rafael-sama said:
:uh..: I didn't liked The innocent malice's first chapter. It's... Boring.
Kazumi is so... Nothing... Even when compared with Madoka in Episodes 01~11. Also, where's that Jyubey?
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He appears until the final pages of the third chapter. :innocent:
 
Watched the last episodes yesterday, and gave myself a day to stew on them.

what I didn't like:

- the timing and pacing of the last episode (awkward and disjointed, scenes didn't flow very well, particularly after the world was changing when Madoka made her wish)
- the last scene (I know it was about Madoka's soul gem, but it still seemed out of place and didn't finish off the series with something a bit more memorable)
- that was one... awkward Madoka/Homura final scene (looks like fanservice or something)
- I wanted to smack Kamijo and Hitomi, dammit. what bugs me even more about this pairing is that we see literally NO interaction between these two throughout the entire show up to the confession. i mean, if Hitomi really liked him she would have shown up to see him at the hospital or ran to talk to him when he returned to school. but she didn't, so i feel like her ultimatum for Sayaka was a plot device that was invented halfway into the show- which is just poor planning on the director's part.
- that the entire magical girl system was changed because of a single wish. a bit of a copout ending. =/

what I liked:
- Homura's weapon arsenal against the Walpurgis. Major BADASSERY right there.
- apparently Kasahara's theme was epic...? I don't pay a lot of attention to the music in any series while I'm watching it so I guess a future rewatching is in order :XD:
- that Kyouko's back!
- at the end of ep 12, Kyuubey seemed more like a sidekick to Homura rather than an antagonist. my hostile attitude towards him has softened a tiny bit.

what made me cry:
- the final Junko/Madoka conversation. that was just heartbreaking, I cried LOADS.
- when Madoka faced Kyuubey and made her wish.
- Sayaka watching Kamijo (the jerky jerk-faced jerk) playing his violin for the last time with Madoka.
- Madoka calling Homura her best friend (I'm choosing to ignore the nekkid factor which made the whole scene awkward to the max) and giving her her hair ribbons.
- Homura fighting the demons while using a bow like Madoka's and wearing Madoka's hair ribbon.
- Junko not remembering who Madoka was, with Madoka definitely watching and listening. it's nice Madoka thinks she has a higher purpose and is saving the mahou shoujos, but I would be heartbroken if my mother used to know who I was and was my emotional crutch, and now she doesn't even know my name.

overall, I can't tell how happy of an ending this is. I don't know if I like this ending or not.

moichispa said:
by the way does anyone is able to create a single interpretation of the last scene. The homura one.

It will make me go crazy :omg:
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homura's wearing a pair of wings in that scene that have a similar art style to the psychedelic art pattern that decorates witches' worlds. how i see it is that the despair that madoka gathers from the magical girls supplies homura's powers. i don't have any idea why homura's fighting so many demons alone, though :O maybe her new job is to protect the world by destroying demons.
 
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Yasha999 said:
He appears until the final pages of the third chapter. :innocent:
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I saw a few photos of chapter 4 it seems to appear there too

I don't like too much Kazumi really. It seemed like the post madoka world at the first but there is a grief seed on the third chapter.
 
Madoka figures: http://deremoe.com/deremoeWP/wp-content ... 42x300.jpg
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also: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10145816
now, release Kyouko and Sayaka like that, and I'm going bankrupt. :nosebleed: :XD:
Speaking of which, there are also t-shirts on sale:
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10145556
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10145555
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10145554
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10145553
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10145552
Although nowadays you can just buy a t-shirt and have anything printed on it in the nearest printing service. :XD: Figurines, on the other hand... The few spots in Minsk are totally stuffed with Bleach and Death Note alone. :uh..:
As to sales, Madoka seems to be topping Bakemonogatari at preorder stage alone. And some fans may be having more urgetn things to spend money on after the quake; when they're ready to buy a BD/DVD for themselves... it's total reprint time :plot:

The official situe has updated with the 6th and last BD/DVD, however no sign of Vol 2 OST yet. Guess they will update it later since it releases September 21
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They're all marked as packed with a vague "Special CD" for now. Personally, I expect the rest of the soundtrack with Vol 4. :tea:
And how about OST Vol 3 in September, with inspired outtracks like, say, image themes for other Puella Magi? Especially some famous one, if you know what I mean. :stars: :psst:

I didn't liked The innocent malice's first chapter. It's... Boring.
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It seems to get better, although the impression's still inferior to Madoka. And I was really miffed at Kazumi
getting a haircut, she had such gorgeous hair :wai:

Oriko Magica, on the other hand, is written by Urobuchi himself, so I place higher bets on it. :ayashii:

@wintersviolet:
- the said scene doesn't really look like fanservice to me :XD: it makes sense in context and overall symbolism (and the latter is a meal Shinbo has three times a day, so what do you expect :ohoho: )
- Kamijo... sigh... People are people. At least he remembered his friend. But I'm really questioning now if he would EVER see her as more than friend. :leaf:
And Hitomi was aware of Sayaka's crush, but probably waited for Sayaka to make a move all this time. I hardly imagine her jumping at the guy at random once he's discharged. Besides, the contents of their conversation in the park remain unknown, there is even a speculation that
Hitomi REALLY told him about Sayaka's feelings, but... it was too late. :cry: And then, through comforting each other after Sayaka's death (I don't even wanna think about how Hitomi might have felt about it, since Sayaka's death did look a bit like suicide :omg: ), they got closer.
On the other hand, this outcome is apparently the same in all timelines,
including the final one.
and after it all, I encounter lots of threads full of Sayaka haters. What the kyuubey! :voodoo:
- about the system...
the only way it could ever be changed was a wish. Of course it took a clever one and sufficient power for carrying it out instead of, say, having your soul gem breaking after erasing the first dozen of witches. AND probably the connection to other timelines that Madoka had as a result of Homura's efforts. And changing the system, coincidentally, was the only best way out of this predicament. Why I don't see it as a copout? Because it didn't bring no Hollywood happy ending, instead just bringing the whole Puella Magi picture to the way Mami, Sayaka and lots of other contracting girls used to view it. You sacrifice yourself for your wish, but you get to do some serious good in the process. In the end of this Deconstruction Show, who'd expect a partial reconstruction? :ayashii: :ohoho:
- Homura's arsenal: cool but evoking grim thoughts. This amount of firepower was apparently enough to barbecue a Godzilla or two;
Walpurgis Night just brushed it off. This leads to speculations, that unlike other witches, she may actually be vulnerable ONLY TO MAGICAL ATTACKS. And since poor Homerun-chan can't provide any of those by herself... :white: :vortex:
- the spoiler-tagged point below the Kasahara one: YESSSSSSSS :sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy: :sohappy: :touched:
And Kyuubey...
you do realize that this white twerp would jump at the first chance to use the previous system? :knife: For all we know, thier lab somewhere in space may be already analyzing Homura's story and writing theses on "Possibilities of distracting Madoka Kaname so she misses at least one witch in future" :ohoho:

as to your take on the last scene:
somehow it seems a bit weird to me that a magical girl should tap into despair for power, and that Madoka, of all people, will support that idea. That, and distributing gathered despair may be well outside Madoka's powers. There are several possible speculations:
- this despair gives birth to demons. Debatable, since Homura claims they appear from the negative feelings people themselves release. For all we know, the first [cavegirl? :XD: ] Puella Magi in the old system might have been assigned to battle the said demons, but since witches appeared, they canceled demons out by simply feeding on this negative output (and always looking for more :omg: )
- this despair is converted to pure energy and leaks out to the universe. Cue Kyuubey's seal of approval. :ohoho:
- the despair from ALL possible witches has been gathered once in Madoka's Soul Gem (what Homura's soul could witness due to her being partly detached from the time flow herself), turning her into a witch in that moment of time; however, since Madoka's existence stretched all over the timeline, she just appeared and erased that very witch. either it was a one time action... or this despair keeps circulating from one representation of Madoka to another, obliging herself from the future instant to destroy her own witch form continuously. Seriously, that would be the most disturbing development possible. Meaning Madoka will never end this cycle, as there's always at least one witch for her to erase. Like Mami said, she'll be stuck as a Puella Magi eternally, in her endless fight! :white: :omg: :cry: God-like or not, our Madoka-chan needs a hug more than ever... :leaf:

Concerning witch magic... there seems to be no difference between the magic Puella Magi and witches use; only the manifestation and application of that magic. Since demons create barriers and the last scene seems to be taking place in one... these weird wings may well be the outlook of Homura's default white wings distorted by this particular barrier. Remember how Kirsten and Elsa Maria's barriers influenced the girls' looks. :ayashii: As to Homura fighting alone... let's imagine she just encountered all this bunch when separated from Mami and Kyouko. Otherwise... it's possible she just outlived both of them. :cry:
 
Sankaku reports of Nico Nico rebroadcast with some added material. As trolling as Sankaku is known to be, the caps look real at first glance. As the speculations have it, the scenes in the shelter and the more explicit depiction of Homura's predicament in ep 11 could have been the reason for delay, causing Shaft to remove those few moments from the final MBS broadcast. :omg:
I personally don't find these pics disturbing enough to grant a delay... but then again, I WASN'T in one of those shelters after March 11. Those who were... might be really disturbed by the memories, after all. :uh..:

Then, we have a bit more info on the plot of Oriko Magica. While it doesn't completely uproot the possibility of happening prior to PMMM events, the chances of this story being a sequel seem even more probable now. After all, it's doubtful they'd have to delay the prequel until episode 12 aired. :ayashii: :plot:
And "mahou shoujo hunting"? By Gen Urobuchi? Just when I thought the girls' suffering has ended [for the most part]... :omg:
btw, Moichispa, do you follow that blog, too? Or is that a coincidence in nicknames? :ayashii: :sparkleguy:
There is also a fanart containing Kyuubey's theory from ep 11 in a nutshell. D.I.S.T.U.R.B.I.N.G. :white:
And there's also an interesting blog about explaining the ending (which, I agree with the blogger, looks clear enough once you watch the subs and have the whole story in mind - at least, a LOT clearer than EoE was way back when :ohoho: )

EDIT: the last frame of ep 12. this is official, so... time to make guesses? :XD:
 
I watched the final episodes last night and I liked the series as a whole. The ending was kind of okay. I would like to see a movie, and with new music instead of just the music that's in the show already, although I loved it. (Even the Eri track that was played repeatedly, I think I'll still like listening to it from the cd.) I can't wait to get the soundtrack personally. :dote:
 
@Nick Hunter: Sorry, but I don't agree with your points. I could attempt to debate back with my own reasoning, but then that would just become an endless circle of rebuttals- and anyway, people can read a bunch of theories and take and choose what they want to believe. More importantly, I'm frankly getting annoyed that you're attempting to justify any and all criticisms that other people and myself have against Madoka (and Yuki's music, for that matter), because not everyone sees it as a perfect anime (or all of her works as brilliant). I clearly said what I did and didn't like about Madoka, and I wouldn't waste time investing emotional value in a show that I didn't enjoy watching. However, I'm not ever going to be argued into being convinced that it's flawless, and the same goes for Yuki's works.

It's only fair that you get your say, should you choose to say anything in answer to this post- but I'm not going to reply. I don't plan on getting into yet another discussion with you.
 
Wow that article was quite enlightening now that I rewatched the last 2 episodes it fits perfectly.
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WTQB... I posted the same link twice. :omg:
Here's the one I meant. :XD:

(but would Homura after becoming a witch, meet agian Madoka and then go to her next life ?)
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Considering that
Madoka could interact with Sayaka's soul, I guess what you say is a strong possibility. :sohappy:
The "next life" part is harder to speculate on, since there is little to no basis for that so far (although someone at AS did notice that
magical girls from different epochs had soul gems of similar/the same colour :ayashii:
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@wintersviolet: there's no need for you to enter discussions or feel forced into interpreting something someone else's way. :innocent: I just expressed my opinion on some points you found dubious based on how I understood this, but this is my IMHO that no one is obliged to take as "the word of god". For that matter, anyone's theory will be IMHO/WMG/WTQB unless it comes from Shinbo or Urobuchi themselves. :XD: Besides, I consider this series great and my favourite currently, but claiming it's PERFECT would be far-fetched. When I see an anime that's perfect... darn, I might just stop watching all other shows, so I guess I might be better off not seeing one. :white: :XD:

EDIT: translation summary of the Drama CD bundled with Volume 1.
Also, there is a line of seiyuu photos at Puella Wiki. Check out hair colours - I wonder if it was on purpose? :ayashii: Not to mention Emiri's... er... not-quite-a-hat. :plot: :XD:
 
Content of Drama CD 1: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm14266993
Synopsis: http://pastebin.com/URcfqWcy
Drama CD synopsis : (source anonymous 4chan)

Set during episode 10

Homura is released from the hospital. She's all emo because she thinks she has been a burden to other people for all her life.

Homura transfers to Mitakihara. She meets a black cat, on a way and takes a liking to it.

Homura's first day of school consist mostly of her failing every subject and her listening to people badmouth her. "You'd think a bedridden person would have time to read books? ect ect.."

next she fails her PE session.. she hears more people badmouthing her "being a hospital discharge is sure nice.. you have have an excuse to slack away during PE"

Homura hears this and decides to push her frail body pass its limit.

Madoka sees this and decides to give her a helping hand. She places an enhancement spell on Homura that helps her pass a running jumping test. But when Homura tries to do a second jump, her legs won't stop running and she is carried away by her feet.

Madoka telepath instant messages Mami to help her dispel the enhancement, which she does. Homura stops running but she falls unconscious because she overexerted herself. When Homura wakes up, Madoka tries to explain things, but isn't sure how to. Homura blames herself and goes emo again.

Witch Isabel senses this and starts whispering thoughts of suicide into Homura's head. While walking home, Homura gets depressed enough to wonder into Isabel's barrier as per episode 10

Madoka and Mami save Homura from Isabel, and they brief her on things. Madoka admits that the PE accident was her fault and apologizes for that. Homura wonder if she should become a magical girl too. Madoka seems excited, but Mami tells her that you should never become a magical girl on whim. Being a magical girl is a calling and not an escape.

Madoka walks Homura home. They meet the black cat Homura met earlier. Madoka says that Mami is right in her reasoning, but the truth is, Madoka became a magical girl to save this black cat from being hit by a car. She's a text book example of someone who became a magical girl on whim, so she asks Homura to keep it a secret from Mami. Homura however, says that kindness is cool.

Madoka tells Homura that should she ever become a magical girl, Homura must think about wish seriously and not decided it on whim. Homura promises Madoka.

The conversation then turns more morbid. Madoka say that she wanted to adopt this black cat, but apparently it likes being independent. Still, if something were to happen to her, she would like Homura to take care of the cat. Homura panics. Madoka says that she's not planning on dying soon or anything.. it's just that battles with witches have an unpredictable element to them and no one really knows what can happen inside a witch barrier. Madoka says she's sorry for making Homura worry about her, but she tells her one last advice. During a storm, do not under any circumstances leave your house. Madoka then excuses herself because she has to prepare for Walpurgis Night

Time passes and suddenly Madoka is absent from class. At home Homura wonders what this Walpurgis Night Mami was talking about is and she googles it. She learns that it refers to a Witch festival and deduces that it's not a good thing in context of magical girls. She also notices that it is storming outside and remembers Madoka's warning. Homura goes out anyway.

On her way she runs into the black cat earlier who helps her lead Homura towards Madoka.

And the rest we know...

At that night Homura became a magical girl, but she still did not know the true meaning of it until much later.

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Oh, this explained some holes.
 
^ these dramas are basically episodes they were lazy to animate, judging from the duration :ohoho:

thanks so much Yuki88 (how can I rip this ? :confu:) :sohappy:
 
these dramas are basically episodes they were lazy to animate
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I thought all audio dramas were that long, but LOL anyway. :XD:

Minute 23, new music LOL At least I've never heard it...
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Now I'm intrigued. Since unused music theory sounds weird in context, this should be a rare example of Yuki writing new material for a Drama CD... :stars:
 
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Nick Hunter said:
Also, there is a line of seiyuu photos at Puella Wiki. Check out hair colours - I wonder if it was on purpose? :ayashii: Not to mention Emiri's... er... not-quite-a-hat. :plot: :XD:
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Yep, all PShopped. I have their original images. :XD:

george1234 said:
thanks so much Yuki88 (how can I rip this ? :confu:) :sohappy:
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If you use Firefox, there's a plug-in called "Nicofox" which allows you to download NicoNico videos from their website. Mitter is another alternative.
 
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