Puella Magi Madoka☆Magica OST

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If that theme is overused means the script is monotonous

To make a lot of people speculating their hindquarters off over each episode and deliver one wham after another... not too bad for a monotonous script, huh. :XD:

Hey, there are other themes to reflect the pain of the girls

and they were used a number of times, too. SPM! must have been just taken for the leitmotif of the series. I don't think it was there just to express "sadness". It was there to emphasize the topic. And for all we know, Yuki might have been specifically asked to write such a theme, suitable for using throughout the story.
I'll say again, I don't have anything against the use of this track, but I understand why people may do. That's just how I see the logic behind the use of the track. To write it off as a fail, one should assume inexperienced staff, but Shaft are not new in the industry, and I don't remember any of their shows whose OST would make emphasis on a single track. So I doubt they'd have done it just for the sake of using less music, lol.

I've listened ALL the music and I reaffirm my previous post, the next OST will contain new battle themes and strings/piano tracks (no more vocal tracks until Tokyo Konsei/Yuri Kasahara=OST3). Unreleased music? Perhaps (CD3 has a lot of free space, lol).

I'm more expecting the remaining tracks to be split between two volumes (it will estimate to 10-12 tracks in each). There still seems to be one new track in CD drama (not Clementia), plus the CM track, plus possibly more tracks to appear in "Summer Day Life" and other CD dramas to come. :ayashii: But even if they keep it to the show's OST, three volumes will at least make it Yuki's third work (after .hack//SIGN and KnK) to have all the music officially released. Looking at it from the bright side, there's at least ONE justification for Sony's policy here. :plot:

Shaft influences (stupid if they've got to loop it)?

Like I said, I can't trace these influences to Shaft's previous works. Not to mention that Shaft nowadays is 5/6 Shinbo, and the OST for his previous collaboration with Yuki sports no fewer knockout tracks than your usual Madlax. I can't say anything about the producer, of course, since I'm hardly familiar with him and his approach.

Have you hear the a song of storm and fire from Tsubasa episode 1?

Yep, I did. that was the moment I was hooked to Yuki's music, actually But looping the bridge is no big deal there, considering that Mashimo later used the song regularly with all its segments, one or selected (talking the song itself here, not renditions like Fireseeker).
As to Tsubasa OADs, Tokyo Revelations is a good example, but I'm not even sure if I want to discuss Shunraiki which was a damned recycle.

And what does 'traditional soundtrack' means? If means to do boring OST sometimes, I prefer that traditional soundtracks.

Sounds slightly contradictory, but oh well. :XD: Traditional soundtrack is not something boring (it depends on your perception of each individual track, and tastes differ), it's a soundtrack where music mostly consists of scene-based tracks rather than general themes. The latter will always be present in some quantity, but most tracks will be instrumental/choral patterns either looped during some process or lacking any structure whatsoever, with the tune following every depicted move/step/action instead. In other words, it's not necessary that a "traditional" soundtrack should be all SFX, it may have a melody but still serve the purpose of complementing the scene rather than carry an overall theme. In Yuki's works, both types of music are abundant, and both sport an undeniable level of quality. But she tends to lean on the theme music side as her style is based on the methods more common for themes and independent instrumentals (and I remember she herself wondered in an interview why anime OSTs didn't quite tend to make use of songs as BGMs). Summing up her style and the demands of the actual projects she works on, it all comes to the balance between music you can enjoy but interpret more clealry after you know the context it was used in (because it's a specific track for this [kind of] scene) and full-fledged themes which usually make Yuki's OSTs resemble instrumental albums, since in theory you could even release these themes separately as instrumental singles without mentioning the source, and few people would suspect it being a soundtrack BGM. :XD:

In short, in my opinion:
Tsubasa OST1&2 > Madoka OST1&2&3
Historia OST1&2 > Madoka OST1&2&3
Erementar Gerad OST1&thing <> Madoka OST1&2&3

The first two lines are a given. The third one may be more debatable, the only thing that connects two OSTs is a comparative lack of vocal tracks. :ohoho: Otherwise, IMHO Madoka is closer to works like Petite Cossette, Pandora Hearts and perhaps Xenosaga 2 as well. :ayashii: Of course, the latter two have more music to begin with, so if you want a one-cour comparison, Aquarian Age might also be an example.

Everybody here have to admit it, Madoka Magica soundtrack is not the best of Yuki

Also a given, although good luck defining Yuki's single best work, really. :XD: I so far consider it one of her best works, but there's no way I expect you to take my opinion for granted. To each his own. :innocent:
 
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She's remembered for composing animes like .hack//SIGN or Tsubasa; by now .hack//SIGN, Tsubasa and Madoka Magica. Why Yuki Kajiura won that Biglobe's poll? Well, ok, we vote her everyday, lol, but if the composer for Madoka were another person? Why people cover a lot of BGM in Youtube BEFORE OST release?
This is so good, she will get a bit more of job offers and we'll be happy, though she composed for important shows in the past (Achilles to Kame, Hokuto no Ken). Madoka Magica is one more of those animes.

wintersviolet said:
but in other places I saw people (who aren't necessarily die-hard Yuki fans) getting excited about Madoka and planning to watch it because "Yuki Kajiura is the composer".
Yes, I read comments in December like "if Yuki Kajiura does the music I've to watch the anime".

Nick Hunter said:
To make a lot of people speculating their hindquarters off over each episode and deliver one wham after another... not too bad for a monotonous script, huh. :XD:
Speculating about the Walpurgis Night, not every episode. The rest is ordinary speculation, every show can get it.

Nick Hunter said:
and they were used a number of times, too. SPM! must have been just taken for the leitmotif of the series. I don't think it was there just to express "sadness". It was there to emphasize the topic. And for all we know, Yuki might have been specifically asked to write such a theme, suitable for using throughout the story.
I'll say again, I don't have anything against the use of this track, but I understand why people may do. That's just how I see the logic behind the use of the track. To write it off as a fail, one should assume inexperienced staff, but Shaft are not new in the industry, and I don't remember any of their shows whose OST would make emphasis on a single track. So I doubt they'd have done it just for the sake of using less music, lol.
Yes, they used but when Sis pm was already used, bell version, for example. Btw I have to say this theme was used at the beginning of episode 11 and the result was awesome, then Sis puella in the scene where QB explain the Assassin's Creed story of the witchs. IMO Yuki Kajiura failed with the main theme if the intention was to create a suitable theme.

Nick Hunter said:
plus possibly more tracks to appear in "Summer Day Life" and other CD dramas to come. :ayashii: But even if they keep it to the show's OST, three volumes will at least make it Yuki's third work (after .hack//SIGN and KnK) to have all the music officially released.
Hmmm, yes, better wait. CD Drama is a new world.
hack has unreleased music. KnK too (prologue to ARIA ;_;). And Noir OST is splitted in 3 volumes.

Nick Hunter said:
Yep, I did. that was the moment I was hooked to Yuki's music, actually But looping the bridge is no big deal there, considering that Mashimo later used the song regularly with all its segments, one or selected (talking the song itself here, not renditions like Fireseeker).
As to Tsubasa OADs, Tokyo Revelations is a good example, but I'm not even sure if I want to discuss Shunraiki which was a damned recycle.
I think a song of storm was used 2 o 3 times in second season. When I talk about Tsubasa OADs I talk about the how they used the music, no need new music. And even Tokyo Revelations main theme, haha! This is the best! The main theme for 3 episodes and only used in 2 of them; stripped in the third OAD! The same song and different scenes. IMO, this is a good exploitation of Yuki's talent. Undeniable!

Nick Hunter said:
The first two lines are a given. The third one may be more debatable, the only thing that connects two OSTs is a comparative lack of vocal tracks. :ohoho: Otherwise, IMHO Madoka is closer to works like Petite Cossette, Pandora Hearts and perhaps Xenosaga 2 as well. :ayashii: Of course, the latter two have more music to begin with, so if you want a one-cour comparison, Aquarian Age might also be an example.
Vocal tracks is not why I love Yuki Kajiura. In fact, Limits from PHOST2 is OVER-EPIC without vocal and Xebec is agree with me.
Petite Cosette OST is beautiful, I don't know if I can compare it with Madoka's. But...
Pandora Hearts OST1&2 > Madoka OST1&2&3
Xenosaga OST > Madoka OST1&2&3
Aquarian Age... was really weird soundtrack by Yuki, a new style.


I can't say anymore, you're Shinbo fan: impartiality 0%.
Again, Madoka Magica soundtrack, not the best. But not the worst. Obviously and fortunately, Yuki has a future, so we'll hear better things by her. This is not the end!
:dote:
 
Lol, what are you listened to say that?

GitS and Higurashi :XD:
Seriously, the one best track I've heard from him so far is "Voyage to Avalon".

Anyway, why is KnK OST considered to be psychodelic? lol I find it to be so Kajiura standart, nothing out of ordinary (even though I love it)

Yuki has composed SFX-driven pieces before, but never to such an extent. In KnK she aimed to reflect the titular "boundary of emptiness" atmosphere, thus she decided to experiment with "music without music" (and IIRC she was even slightly nervous about how it would be received). OF course, when it comes to the strings and chorals, her trademark style is heard again, but overall KnK OST is pretty stand-alone and unique among her works. :sparkleguy:
And is it me or the success of such an experiment partly paved the way for some tracks in Pandora Hearts and Madoka? :ayashii: :plot:

though she composed for important shows in the past (Achilles to Kame, Hokuto no Ken)

Kitano's movies are "arthouse" to an extent, and HnK must be only popular among its hardcore fans (I like Yuki's OST a lot, but I tried the movie itself and couldn't help facepalming... and the music was barely heard there behind all the grunts and roars... or maybe it's just not my cup of tea :XD: ).
But as to Yuki's popularity... For us CPMers it's undeniably sad that many people around the globe still raise their eyebrows when hearing the name of Yuki Kajiura; but I think the situation is a bit different in Japan. And the influence of Madoka on Yuki's career should be analyzed not from the perspective of "getting more popular projects", but from the perspective of "getting more quality projects" - those with renowned staff backing it up and needing Yuki's talent to add to the good points of the show, not to make up for its faults. In this aspect, I consider both Madoka and KnK more prominent milestones for Yuki. :tea:
So far, it seems to work - up and coming is Fate/Zero, a both popular and well-staffed project. Let's hope for more. :plot:

Speculating about the Walpurgis Night, not every episode.

You've missed a lot. :psst:

hack has unreleased music. KnK too (prologue to ARIA ;_;). And Noir OST is splitted in 3 volumes.

hack//SIGN had an "Extra" album with unreleased music (I'm not sure, but assumably it covered the whole OST). Noir OST 3 had music that was hardy in the OST itself - more like a theme album with some inspired themes and remakes (lthough I'd LOVE Madoka to pull of something similar - imagine, say, Kalafina's version of Sayaka's theme :nosebleed: ). Can't say anything about KnK, I had an impression that all the tracks were released on bundled CDs, but I don't remember if there was any issue with the prologue to ARIA... (as well as the beginning of the movie itself - sadly, I liked it the least of all the KnK movies).

And even Tokyo Revelations main theme, haha! This is the best! The main theme for 3 episodes and only used in 2 of them; stripped in the third OAD! The same song and different scenes. IMO, this is a good exploitation of Yuki's talent. Undeniable!

LOL, yes. That and Ship of Fools whose usage during Sakura's mission I don't quite understand (perhaps because I was already used to this song being Fei Wong's theme). Although I'm not sure if Tokyo Revelatons even HAD a main theme - frankly speaking, "Syaoran's awakening" theme didn't seem like one to me just on the base of being among the few new tracks. :XD:

In fact, Limits from PHOST2 is OVER-EPIC without vocal and Xebec is agree with me.

YMMV... Yuri drives this track to the top, IMHO. :dote:

Petite Cosette OST is beautiful, I don't know if I can compare it with Madoka's. But...
Pandora Hearts OST1&2 > Madoka OST1&2&3
Xenosaga OST > Madoka OST1&2&3
Aquarian Age... was really weird soundtrack by Yuki, a new style.

I can't say anymore, you're Shinbo fan: impartiality 0%.

And a dangerously growing Madokafag, it seems. :ohoho: Honestly, I have my non-sourse-related reasons to place this OST on one shelf with Petite Cosette and Xenosaga, but overall, this is a matter of our own charts and rankings - hardly worth debating over. :innocent: So far, let's just wait for July and hope it will bring more official Madoka music. :sohappy:

Yuki has a future, so we'll hear better things by her. This is not the end!

And this I'll second anytime. Here's to more awesomeness from her! :V: :tea:

Same thing is happening with Fate/Zero.

yep, that's pretty much my line, too. Even knowing about Gen Urobuchi's involvement, I wasn't too interested in it before Yuki's name surfaced. :XD:
 
Gotta disagree with Kajiura about the more often usage of songs as BGM. I believe I can say that I clearly prefer the traditional way (that's what she did in KnK, anyway).

Oh, the ARIA prologue song, I wanted it too...Pity that it wasn't released, and I think it never will be ;X

About the reason why KnK is considered to be psychodelic, I was expecting a different reason. I read the interview in which she said she wanted to capture the "boundary of emptiness" feeling of the series, so I thought it was something different.

Anyway, I guess this discussion in specific is pretty much finished, and I don't have anything to add to it :XD:
 
Nah, I mean the song that played right before the credits (hence, before ARIA is played).

For those that watched the movie:
Right after when Shiki finally remembers Mikiya's name.
 
I wanted this track as well :cry: however its so short (around than 10secs long) so this maybe explains why they didnt released it) trhen maybe she's saving it for some ARIA live performance (like was the violin arrangement of oblivious in YK live vol 2).
 
the madoka songs really should have had some latin lyrics, would have been perfect for this series. And Yuki hasn't used latin since ... Salva Nos?
 
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george1234 said:
maybe she's saving it for some ARIA live performance (like was the violin arrangement of oblivious in YK live vol 2).
only if ARIA is the first song. ARIA tour, lol.


Nick Hunter said:
hack//SIGN had an "Extra" album with unreleased music (I'm not sure, but assumably it covered the whole OST). Noir OST 3 had music that was hardy in the OST itself - more like a theme album with some inspired themes and remakes
za warudo 2: http://cl.ly/7Jnf
Noir OST3 is vocal themes + remix + unreleased BGM.

Nick Hunter said:
and HnK must be only popular among its hardcore fans
A very old product; it get animes, movies, events, videogames, merchadising... NOWADAYS. Btw, the music for Zero, the last movie that Yuki scored, is very nice.

Nick Hunter said:
Speculating about the Walpurgis Night, not every episode.

You've missed a lot. :psst:
Oh, yes, Sayaka's boring plot, Sayaka x Kyouko something, why the protagonist with the pink hair and pink dress is not a magic girl?... Ordinary speculation. :waa:
 
ARIA tour, lol.

not necessarily. :XD: YK Live Vol 2 didn't have "The World" in its title.

+ unreleased BGM.

ah, yes, forgot about those. :XD:

Btw, the music for Zero, the last movie that Yuki scored, is very nice.

As if I expected otherwise. :plot:

Oh, yes, Sayaka's boring plot, Sayaka x Kyouko something, why the protagonist with the pink hair and pink dress is not a magic girl?... Ordinary speculation.

:psst: :psst: :psst:
 
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Kazado said:
Everybody here have to admit it, Madoka Magica soundtrack is not the best of Yuki. It will be remembered because the anime is popular.
With love, from my feelings and ears.

I'm afraid I disagree...I consider the El Cazador OST and the Kara no Kyoukai OST to be Kajiura-sensei's best, but most of the songs on the Madoka Magica OST are extremely good too. And Puella in Somnio is right up there with The Place of Eternity or Spiral, at least for me.

I actually consider Pandora Hearts to be one of the few OSTs I don't really like. I found way too much repetition of the Everytime You Kissed Me theme, as well as a few others, throughout those songs. And I'm afraid I didn't enjoy that Boogiepop OST at all either :spotlight:

Sorry for a little off-topic... :bow:

Oh, but I do agree that Madoka Magica's popularity will definitely give Kajiura-sensei a boost too :V:
 
i think puella magi madoka magica OST are good.coz there are numerous tracks that are just good to listen too.being considerate,maybe she didn't gave it her best this time due to the load of works that she has and she's tired (just assuming) :uh..:
 
i know this is not about the OST but, it's still puella magi madoka magica related 87.gif

Madoka Magica Collaborates with Online Toy Wars Game

At the "GungHo Festival 2011" event held in Tokyo on Saturday, GungHo Online Entertainment (Ragnarok Online) announced it is collaborating with the makers of the Puella Magi Madoka Magica television anime on its online third-person shooter game, Toy Wars. The game is set in the room of a high school club dedicated to figures. Unbeknownst to the club members, their action figures wage secret battles after school when the humans are gone. The game is known as H.A.V.E. Online in the original Korean, and MicroVolts in English.

Information on which characters will be available as costumes for players' avatars will be made at a later date.

The festival also announced that the game will also be adding more Strike Witches characters as avatars. The characters Sanya V. Litvyak, Erica Hartmann, Lynette Bishop and Mio Sakamoto will be available as costumes in the game soon.

Last year the game collaborated with makers of the anime film The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya to make the characters Haruhi Suzumiya, Yuki Nagato and Mikuru Asahina available as costumes in the game.

Source: Gpara
 
Why does the list start with #4? :confu:
Here are the translations from Puella Wiki:

1. Decretum [Decree]
2. Agmen clientum [Army of Clients]
3. Venari strigas [Witch Hunt]
4. Signum malum [Bad Omen]
5. Amicae carae meae [My Beloved Friend]
6. Incertus [Uncertainty]
7. Inevitabilis [Inevitable]
8. Serena ira [Peaceful Wrath]
9. Anima mala [Evil Soul]
10. Pugna infinita [Unending Battle]
11. Vocalise Op.34 no.14
12. Ave Maria

So, 10 track out of remaining 21 (23 if you count the CM theme and the melody from the first CD drama). I didn't think they'd include classical pieces. Gotta be Yuki's first OST to feature a classical bonus since Boogiepop. :ayashii:

The titles are a bit puzzling. To think how long I used to address Pugna cum Maga as "Witch Hunt", and here they use it as a separate title. :XD: And... Army of Clients??? Creepy. :hide: :plot:
Guessing the tracks will be hard until we know for sure whether Sony is preparing OST 3 or this one's gonna be a selection of remaining tracks. If it's the latter (hopefully not, or this bundling will be pointless), it's difficult to tell what themes we'll get.

But so far I'll make the following assumptions:

1. Decretum [Decree] - Soul Gem theme, unless it's the next track (not sure which title fits it best)
2. Agmen clientum [Army of Clients] - and if it's NOT Soul Gem theme... I don't even know what to suggest for such a title. :XD: Since it seems to refer to Kyuubey's fare, it might be Sis Puella Magica (we have two more renditions left). But it may also be Kyouko's theme... if the title refers to what she wished for her father... :white:
3. Venari strigas [Witch Hunt] - Mami/Charlotte
4. Signum malum [Bad Omen] - Homura/Charlotte, Kyouko/Sayaka etc.
5. Amicae carae meae [My Beloved Friend] - might be "Madoka's grief" (quiet and sad piano theme)
6. Incertus [Uncertainty] - might be Sayaka-related cello theme
7. Inevitabilis [Inevitable] - Sayaka's main theme? :uh..: :cry:
8. Serena ira [Peaceful Wrath] - might be "Food Chain" theme
9. Anima mala [Evil Soul] - might be Octavia's theme :plot:
10. Pugna infinita [Unending Battle] - "Badass Homura" from ep 10 :XD:

OK, I'm mostly basing it on the titles. :XD: It leaves out at least one more Sis Puella Magica rendition (but with three OSTs, it would make sense to distribute them evenly), Madoka/Junko talk in ep 6, Sayaka/Homura talk in ep 8... (the latter might actually be Decretum, for all we know). That's about it, I guess. Something to look forward to, really. :stars:

I hate these 2month doses of music, me wants whole ost NOW!

+10000000000

Btw, we need to be careful with the discography entry. Most likely there will be no "lyrics" line. And apparently the last two tracks are not composed by Yuki (dunno about the arrangement, though :ayashii: ).
 
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