I just worked in that company very briefly so I don't know that much lol sorry .
I think they had the Performance rights but they didn't have the Sync Rights that is the right to reproduce the song and video together in Films or Blurays / Dvds.
I just worked in that company very briefly so I don't know that much lol sorry .
I think they had the Performance rights but they didn't have the Sync Rights that is the right to reproduce the song and video together in Films or Blurays / Dvds.
george1234
Moderator
I wonder the same stuff. Juchan can ask her/ his friend about this maybe
I asked my friend and he said the following more or less. "It depends on the contract that was signed, each song has an agreement and the copyright percentage depends on the negotiation. The person/band who wants to perform a song needs to contact a copyright agency in the country that the song will be performed."
I think they didn't have a legal proper agreement related to the Sync rights of Saijin no Kanata e between all the publishers and composers, for this reason this performance was left out the video release.
I think they didn't have a legal proper agreement related to the Sync rights of Saijin no Kanata e between all the publishers and composers, for this reason this performance was left out the video release.
george1234
Moderator
Thank you both 
Btw Revo back in Dreamport used to be in King Record but he is now in pony canyon ever since Nein
Btw Revo back in Dreamport used to be in King Record but he is now in pony canyon ever since Nein
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george1234
Moderator
I found this, might be helpful https://www.cric.or.jp/english/clj/cl2.html
About Sajin this might be related (?)
About Sajin this might be related (?)
Code:
(Exercise of the Moral Rights of Co-Authors)
Article 64 (1) The moral rights of co-authors of a joint work may not be exer-cised without the unanimous agreement of all the co-authors.
(2) A co-author may not prevent the agreement referred to in the preceding para-graph from being reached in breach of good faith.
(3) Co-authors may choose one co-author from among themselves to represent them in the exercise of their moral rights.
(4) Limitations on the representative authority of the person representing the co-authors in the exercise of the rights referred to in the preceding paragraph may not be duly asserted against a third party that is without knowledge of those limitations.
(Exercise of a Joint Copyright)
Article 65 (1) The owner of a copyright to a joint work or any other jointly owned copyright (hereinafter in this Article referred to as a "joint copyright") is not entitled to transfer or pledge that share of the joint copyright without the consent of the other co-owners.
(2) A joint copyright may not be exercised without the unanimous agreement of all the co-owners.
(3) In a case referred to in the preceding two paragraphs, a co-owner may not, without justifiable grounds, refuse the consent referred to in paragraph (1) or prevent the agreement referred to in the preceding paragraph from being reached.
(4) The provisions of paragraphs (3) and (4) of the preceding Article apply muta-tis mutandis to the exercise of a joint copyright.
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Kugayama
Moderator
https://x.com/odakaori_0511/status/1911297123091726622
コロナ中から2023年頭までソロ曲の可能性を最大限表現する時間を目一杯やって、そこから梶浦さんアニバやカバーライブで音楽の面白さを再確認にして、産休。
久しぶりのソロステージが本当に楽しみなのです
今年こそ新しくオリジナル曲も作らなきゃ！ってなってるからね
大分のんびり家だが
コロナ中から2023年頭までソロ曲の可能性を最大限表現する時間を目一杯やって、そこから梶浦さんアニバやカバーライブで音楽の面白さを再確認にして、産休。
久しぶりのソロステージが本当に楽しみなのです
今年こそ新しくオリジナル曲も作らなきゃ！ってなってるからね
CloisteredFlame
El Cazador de la Yuki
The translation said that she reconfirmed the fun of performing Kajiura’s music after doing solo work during and after the Covid lockdowns.https://x.com/odakaori_0511/status/1911297123091726622
コロナ中から2023年頭までソロ曲の可能性を最大限表現する時間を目一杯やって、そこから梶浦さんアニバやカバーライブで音楽の面白さを再確認にして、産休。
久しぶりのソロステージが本当に楽しみなのです
今年こそ新しくオリジナル曲も作らなきゃ！ってなってるからね大分のんびり家だが
It’s interesting to realize that the singers’ are having a period of alignment with FJ and that there’s the possibility of eventually choosing to move on from Kajiura’s stage.
We’d been so used to the original quartet but they’ve been halved. Joelle paid the initial price of winning fans over and has got a lot of backlash over years, for changing the roster.
I’m glad Kaori’s versatility is still available on Kajiura’s stage.
It would be fun to hear her voice post-childbirth and how she approaches her vocals.
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CloisteredFlame
El Cazador de la Yuki
A sad thing for me is that she hasn't really had the privilege of being a lead singer on a song written for her that was part of a massive show, or had a strong social media or video sharing platform to go viral.
Her popular Kajiura solos (as FJ KAORI) "Hanampri no Oka", etc., were early on, maybe over 15 years ago, for anime that are maybe classics now but relatively unknown, and wasn't the star (was there an MV).
Hikaru has Magia that is fairly popular just as a song at least on TikTok and for Shorts, probably as much as the anime. Wakana has several popular leads as well. Keiko a few as well.
When I say this I think of project singers like Gemie who got to sing "Call of Silence" and "YouSeeBigGirl" for Sawano in -AoT that launched her visibility and made her voice popular even for those that don't know her name. Especially "YouSeeBigGirl" which is really beloved. She's not big yet but she has had the opportunities to reach some fans across the world.
That's a springboard from virtual anonymity to good level of awareness.
This goes to george's comment about wanting more popular anime for the songs written for Kalafina (and I'll add FJ). It really helps with the promotion and visibility.
I wish Kajiura could get to do MORE massive animes and do songs as a per-singer project using the FJ girls. The issue is she may want or be forced to collaborate with known singers as she's been doing. SnF recording and performance for example brought known anisong Artists but had FJ and Remi doing support vocals.
This doesn't help our FJ girls get as much visibility for potentially big songs they can handle in a solo collaboration with Kajiura context.
george1234
Moderator
Isnt Stone Cold mostly a Kaori song though ? They used to perform it alot. Also she is the lead singer on most of the 2nd album.
grunty
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Here's the thing... I feel Yuki Kajiura clearly loves Kaori. Kaori always had solo songs, plenty parts in group songs and lives (like didn't she inherit half the Wakana and Yuuka material performed post SpaceCraft?). Kajiura just squeezed her into FJ feat. LL's "lighthouse" in a soloist capacity, which as we know pissed me off (and it's not the first time YK has done it; I don't care that it's just the bridge - it's leading vocals). I'm down for more Kaori and definitely always down for more proper solo songs in general from Kajiura... but, again, I believe it's not always up to Kajiura.
Rude and easy of me to say but Kaori and other singers can always have their agencies lobby for them to have more solo stuff in projects (and not just via Kajiura herself) so their paths with YK may cross (inb4 that's exactly why Kaori is on "lighthouse", rather than YK loving her as I had said above, lol). Surely they can comission Kajiura for a song, too. Keiko somehow only got her solo anime project with Kajiura as of now - clearly someone (be it on Keiko's or YK's side) thought the collab was a good idea and a good/easier sell (for whatever reason, first anime single, ex-Kalafina singer and ex-Kalafina producer etc). "Calling" by Kaori Oda (not FJ) for Baccano! somehow happened in the 2000s.
And before george jumps in saying "oh good ole days where there were different FJ singers", there weren't that many solo FJ songs outside of Yuuka before the lives started full force (and only Kaori got more than 1 song after Yuuka) AND all the FJ collaborations were WITHIN SPACECRAFT afaik...
My point is, we can wish for whatever we want. ;P
Edit:
Just in case it wasn't obvious, I wanted to clarify that I did not mean "love" in a romantic way or anything of the sort.
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BuradoChi
Roses at her doorstep
I understand what you means. I always had the feeling that Yuki and Kaori shared a strong mother daughter relationship. I mean she jokingly said when Kaori gave birth that Kaori made her a grandmother
CloisteredFlame
El Cazador de la Yuki
Yeah she's definitely fond of her, having had her since just out of her teens, same with Hikaru. There's a bit of a motherly tone from Kajiura with the both of them, in my view.
I mean Kaori was the only person that could say during a live MC that her "fuin" was the first song they sang at the start of the concert! (referring to the "Anti-hero" theme for my beloved Kanagawa leg of the YKL#20, and Kajiura even made the joke funnier! [A bit of dark Kaori for those that know.
]I see you on this point. Bigger factors in play and realities of the business, beyond just fondness.
Yeah, that was brought to life. It's possible Keiko spoke up for it with her management, to do a fully produced track by Kajiura.
Yeah Kajiura has shown she was willing to do more single tracks with a wider range of single solo vocalists, post-See-Saw, before FJ.
The Yuuka years were more of a showcase of a single vocalist and more akin to a Chiaki-lite (similar to the vibe with See-Saw) in my view, but with a protege rather than an equal.
Kajiura has been evolving as an artist and live performer over the years throughout her career, and our ladies were just along for the ride. As time went on, FictionJunction slowly became a blend of her solo-artist and group-live dynamics (with the grouped singers under her taking over for a while) and leading to the concretizing of her experience as a philosophy of the junctions of fiction, with the "Parade" album (and graphics) emerging as a final solidifying of that concept, audibly and visually, merging all three strains (guest solo, regular solo, and group songs) in one album. A picture of things to come going forward?
Kalafina took a lot of our her - and them - as a creative outlet. They were essentially a hybrid scenario: as a collaborator they were a single artist (made up of 3 singers), and as a group she worked with them as she did with FJ to write and record. She also didn't perform with them, of course.
Well, Kajiura is still evolving. As long as she keeps composing and staying inspired, there's more to come! I'm personally excited with the Aoi Teshima collaboration and her bringing in new singers.
Still waiting for her to write for Ensemble Planeta (she praises them through Hanae all the time) or other acappella or chorus groups.
Oh, and hopefully our main ladies can work out some projects with hiring Kajiura, if the terms and conditions are right, and they really want her paintbrush on their solo canvas.
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BuradoChi
Roses at her doorstep
I will say it: Kaori has to thank so much people like Yuki or Revo. Without them she would sink into oblivion regardless of her vocal talents which she clearly has. We can see it with her solo career which is below average. Yes for some songs you can make the case that they are nice to listen to and maybe some can be bangers but for most of her singles are kinda mediocre and therefore forgettable. I think deep in her heart Kaori knew that her solo career failed kinda but she does not want to admit it. Like people who did not succeed but cannot tell themselves. So this can be a reason why she stays with Yuki cause she is the person who kept her atleast a bit known. And I say this as one of Kaoris biggest fans.
Kugayama
Moderator
Kaori Oda has some really good songs for Wild Arms, Hakuoki and Amnesia, not to mention Magnetic Fighter and Soul Evolution from Gunslinger Stratos.
If one isn't writing lots of music themselves, having a good lot of collaboration with composers of the calibre of Revo and Yuki Kajiura as part of ensemble performances is better than having lesser composers for solo material.
CloisteredFlame
El Cazador de la Yuki
Definitely so! They believed in her abilities as such a young age and entrusted her with great songs/parts and kept her for several years.
Well...it hasn't lived up to her expectations and potential as we can observe.
Oh yes. Your voice gets heard by a wider and musically-intense audience. You also get to be part of important musical celebrations.
It's similar to the way Yuriko and other singers are part of other franchise shows and concerts that have a loyal and dedicated following.
These composers are not as replaceable as one might think. They are probably fairly niche (not radio airplay mainstream) but the music is at a high level. Also many of the singers that have the theatrical/jazz backgrounds have to pave their own way in their solo careers with creativity, setting new things, and being more than just singers, until they earn attention from other parties.
Maybe some singers prefer popular mainstream opportunities since that's where you get to be a bigger star, but that also depends on the kind of voice and vibe you have, and luck/favour with projects and composers, or you just happen to be signed to a talent agency/label that is going places and pushes you forward.