CloisteredFlame
Sailor Yuki
Revo was basically fully self-made almost from the start.
Kugayama
Moderator
Rather, Yuki Kajiura has made her music available for mechanical licensing to anyone through JASRAC.
CloisteredFlame
Sailor Yuki
That means anyone (including me) could license Kajiura's music? Or just previous collaborators?
Does this apply to all of her music that has ever been released?
Kugayama
Moderator
Probably.
There was a case with Chiaki Ishikawa that she couldn't perform "Like an Angel" live because one of the rights holders hadn't registered with JASRAC or Nextone and it was difficult to track down the current rights holder due to the original company no longer being around.
I got it, you mean anyone can perform her songs if they pay the legal copyright. This should be the case for the most of artist songs in general.
But I read in the past that in Kalafina specifically case the songs were registered using Space Craft Label for this reason they and Wakana can freely perform the songs. Since Space Craft is also part of the ownership of the songs, they can allow Kalafina to perform them without Yuki previous consentment.
I think in this case it's not exactly Mechanical but Public Performance Copyright
Public Performance Rights:
These protect the right to perform a song publicly, whether live, in a restaurant, or on a streaming service
I worked briefly in a company that managed music copyright so I know a little about this.
CloisteredFlame
Sailor Yuki
Kugayama
Moderator
There are a few different categories of mechanical licensing, e.g. public performance, sound recording for commercial release, video recording for commercial release, broadcasting... if you look up a song at https://www.jasrac.or.jp/en/ you can find details for a given song.
Don't think so.
A Mechanical licenses in music refers to an agreement between a music producer and the copyright owner of a song that grants companies or individuals permission to reproduce and distribute copyrighted musical compositions, such as CDs or vinyl records, or to make digital reproductions, such as downloads or streaming. https://www.lawditmusic.co.uk/mechanical-licenses-what-are-they/
My friend still works in that music copyright management company, I asked him to confirm and he said it's that the license to Play the song in a live it's Performance license or performing rights.
This is a generic concept used by all the Music Management companies.
License application procedures required per usage
Copyright (economic rights) consists of multiple rights. For example, performing rights licensing procedures need to be taken when performing works, and mechanical rights licensing procedures are required when making audio recordings. Licensing procedures are taken by those who use each right.https://www.jasrac.or.jp/en/about/copyright/
george1234
Moderator
Thanks juchan :) So the reason why Sajin no Kanata e was removed from the recording of Kajiura live where Revo appeared (Kaji Fest?) was because he didnt give his own parts of the mechanical right licence over the song to FlyingDog ?
grunty
I have reached Yuki nirvana
What does FlyingDog have to do with it? But yes, seems like Revo isn't affiliated with JASRAC, at least not listed as such on "Sajin no kanata he" entry. Whereas Kajiura, Seven Seas and SpaceCraft have JASRAC listed. But then, if Revo was all there was left to ask (because everyone else listed has JASRAC handling the licensing), wouldn't it be easy to get Revo to give consent? Iunno.
Anyhuuuuuu, I'm going to remove myself from this since I don't know anything. ^_^
I'll wait for you to come to an agreement and lay it out for us pleb. :D
george1234
Moderator
Sony or whatever. Im still confused cause before she made FJM all her live videos were out by Flying Dog.
P.s: never called you a pleb.
P.s: never called you a pleb.
grunty
I have reached Yuki nirvana
I called myself (and all of us who aren't deep in this copyright business) one. If anyone found that offensive, I apologize.
grunty
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Just one more thought from me:
Maybe it's not that Revo didn't (or didn't want to) give his consent but the higher ups didn't want to deal with him individually, without JASRAC handling everything on their behalf. But again, I'm talking out of my ass. I am now removing myself from this like I said I would. XD
Maybe it's not that Revo didn't (or didn't want to) give his consent but the higher ups didn't want to deal with him individually, without JASRAC handling everything on their behalf. But again, I'm talking out of my ass. I am now removing myself from this like I said I would. XD
I just said these things because I saw them on a every day basis. I had to learn the bare minimum concepts in order to work properly.
A country can have several different Music Copyright Management Organizations, JARSC is one of them. Revo must have filliated itself with another one that is not JASRAC. And if the Company that organized the blu-ray composition and distribution can't not make an agreement with the Music Copyright Organization from Revo, then it needs to remove the part where his songs were played.
I found the publisher from 砂塵の彼方へ is this one -> https://kingrecords.net/company/
A country can have several different Music Copyright Management Organizations, JARSC is one of them. Revo must have filliated itself with another one that is not JASRAC. And if the Company that organized the blu-ray composition and distribution can't not make an agreement with the Music Copyright Organization from Revo, then it needs to remove the part where his songs were played.
I found the publisher from 砂塵の彼方へ is this one -> https://kingrecords.net/company/
grunty
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Yea, this is understandable. If companies can't reach an agreement, then there simply is no deal.
The entry for "Sajin no kanata he" from JASRAC:
| No. | 著作者/出版者 | 識別 | 契約 | 所属団体 | 特記 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 | ＲＥＶＯ | 作詞 | |||
| 2 | 梶浦 由記 | 作詞 | JASRAC | ||
| 3 | ＲＥＶＯ | 作曲 | |||
| 4 | 梶浦 由記 | 作曲 | JASRAC | ||
| 5 | セブンシーズミュージック | 出版者 | JASRAC | ||
| 6 | スペースクラフト音楽出版 株式会社 | 出版者 | JASRAC |
Seven Seas Music (spot#5) is KING RECORDS publishing, and it has JASRAC listed under "affiliated organization". Same for SpaceCraft Publishing (spot#6).
Kajiura has JASRAC listed under "affiliated organization".
Revo's spot is empty. (I don't know how up to date this could be, or whether JASRAC would even list another organization there if he was affiliated with another one - would have to look into it.)
I guess if you're knowledgable I might as well try to understand more too. This might not be exactly what you/we were talking about before, but a new specific question.
So in a situation like this, where we have two different composers & writers, and two different publishers listed.
If you want to PERFORM the song fully live in a concert (without using any of the original recording), do the PUBLISHERS listed here have much to say? Are they owed anything? Or would those publishers only matter for a specific recording submitted?
If we then have said new LIVE PERFORMANCE recorded, would all the previous publishers still have to be dealt with when it comes to RELEASING that NEW RECORDING?
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CloisteredFlame
Sailor Yuki
I understood that reference (said in Captain America’s voice from the Avengers movie).