Kaori Oda solo + collabs (non-YK / non-Sound Horizon)

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grunty said:
If you want to PERFORM something fully live in a concert (without using any of the original recording), do the PUBLISHERS listed here have much to say? Are they owed anything? Or would those publishers only matter for a specific recording submitted?

If we then have said new LIVE PERFORMANCE recorded, who would then have to be directly involved when it comes to RELEASING that LIVE RECORDING?
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I just worked in that company very briefly so I don't know that much lol sorry .

I think they had the Performance rights but they didn't have the Sync Rights that is the right to reproduce the song and video together in Films or Blurays / Dvds.
 
grunty said:
Yea, this is understandable. If companies can't reach an agreement, then there simply is no deal.


The entry for "Sajin no kanata he" from JASRAC:

No.著作者/出版者識別契約所属団体特記
1ＲＥＶＯ作詞
2梶浦　由記作詞 JASRAC
3ＲＥＶＯ作曲
4梶浦　由記作曲 JASRAC
5セブンシーズミュージック出版者 JASRAC
6スペースクラフト音楽出版　株式会社出版者 JASRAC

Seven Seas Music (spot#5) is KING RECORDS publishing, and it has JASRAC listed under "affiliated organization". Same for SpaceCraft Publishing (spot#6).
Kajiura has JASRAC listed under "affiliated organization".
Revo's spot is empty. (I don't know how up to date this could be, or whether JASRAC would even list another organization there if he was affiliated with another one - would have to look into it.)

I guess if you're knowledgable I might as well try to understand more too. This might not be exactly what you/we were talking about before, but a new specific question.

So in a situation like this, where we have two different composers & writers, and two different publishers listed.

If you want to PERFORM the song fully live in a concert (without using any of the original recording), do the PUBLISHERS listed here have much to say? Are they owed anything? Or would those publishers only matter for a specific recording submitted?

If we then have said new LIVE PERFORMANCE recorded, would all the previous publishers still have to be dealt with when it comes to RELEASING that NEW RECORDING?
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I wonder the same stuff. Juchan can ask her/ his friend about this maybe
 
I asked my friend and he said the following more or less. "It depends on the contract that was signed, each song has an agreement and the copyright percentage depends on the negotiation. The person/band who wants to perform a song needs to contact a copyright agency in the country that the song will be performed."

I think they didn't have a legal proper agreement related to the Sync rights of Saijin no Kanata e between all the publishers and composers, for this reason this performance was left out the video release.
 
My takeaway is that, based on public information available to me, the workings of the copyright system and specific deals are impossible to fully comprehend so... I'll just try not to bother and take whatever I'm given without questioning too much. XD
 
I found this, might be helpful https://www.cric.or.jp/english/clj/cl2.html

About Sajin this might be related (?)

Code: 
(Exercise of the Moral Rights of Co-Authors)
　Article 64　(1)　The moral rights of co-authors of a joint work may not be exer-cised without the unanimous agreement of all the co-authors.

　(2)　A co-author may not prevent the agreement referred to in the preceding para-graph from being reached in breach of good faith.

　(3)　Co-authors may choose one co-author from among themselves to represent them in the exercise of their moral rights.

　(4)　Limitations on the representative authority of the person representing the co-authors in the exercise of the rights referred to in the preceding paragraph may not be duly asserted against a third party that is without knowledge of those limitations.

(Exercise of a Joint Copyright)
　Article 65　(1)　The owner of a copyright to a joint work or any other jointly owned copyright (hereinafter in this Article referred to as a "joint copyright") is not entitled to transfer or pledge that share of the joint copyright without the consent of the other co-owners.

　(2)　A joint copyright may not be exercised without the unanimous agreement of all the co-owners.

　(3)　In a case referred to in the preceding two paragraphs, a co-owner may not, without justifiable grounds, refuse the consent referred to in paragraph (1) or prevent the agreement referred to in the preceding paragraph from being reached.

　(4)　The provisions of paragraphs (3) and (4) of the preceding Article apply muta-tis mutandis to the exercise of a joint copyright.
 
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コロナ中から2023年頭までソロ曲の可能性を最大限表現する時間を目一杯やって、そこから梶浦さんアニバやカバーライブで音楽の面白さを再確認にして、産休。
久しぶりのソロステージが本当に楽しみなのです
今年こそ新しくオリジナル曲も作らなきゃ！ってなってるからね
💪
大分のんびり家だが
🙄
 
Kugayama said:
https://x.com/odakaori_0511/status/1911297123091726622

コロナ中から2023年頭までソロ曲の可能性を最大限表現する時間を目一杯やって、そこから梶浦さんアニバやカバーライブで音楽の面白さを再確認にして、産休。
久しぶりのソロステージが本当に楽しみなのです
今年こそ新しくオリジナル曲も作らなきゃ！ってなってるからね
💪
大分のんびり家だが
🙄
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The translation said that she reconfirmed the fun of performing Kajiura’s music after doing solo work during and after the Covid lockdowns.

It’s interesting to realize that the singers’ are having a period of alignment with FJ and that there’s the possibility of eventually choosing to move on from Kajiura’s stage.

We’d been so used to the original quartet but they’ve been halved. Joelle paid the initial price of winning fans over and has got a lot of backlash over years, for changing the roster.

I’m glad Kaori’s versatility is still available on Kajiura’s stage.
It would be fun to hear her voice post-childbirth and how she approaches her vocals.
 
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