Apart from Yuki, are there other artists you like very much?

[ninetales]

Hey, that reminds me, I love Camille Saint-Saens! His violin and piano pieces are absolutely gorgeous

For some reason I didn't think to mention that before

 

[murrue02]

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@Special_K: i also listen to Strauss,Brahms and Oshima Michiru

Well, I'm sure you can roughly make out from my list, apart from Mozart and Boccherini, the rest are largely Romantic/Russian composers. Strauss and Brahms (he's Romantic! ) great too. As are some of the other greats like Paganini, Beethoven, Vivaldi and Scarlatti (check out Horowitz and Argerich for interpretations).

It's a real shame classical music (in general, not referring to the era) is still largely under-appreciated, though.

i strongly agree on that. i believe that people who appreciate classical music are deep.these are real music.too bad only a few appreciates this kind of stuffs

i have a soft spot for orchestra, violin (sting quartet) and piano

did i told you that i'm glad i knew someone like you?! comrade

 

[Special_K]

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too bad only a few appreciates this kind of stuffs

i have a soft spot for orchestra, violin (sting quartet) and piano

did i told you that i'm glad i knew someone like you?! comrade

Well, I like to see it as: less for them, more for us!

Hmm....similar.

Mine's largely strings (in general, EVEN the double bass and the harp), French horn (so elegant), woodwinds, piano and percussions. So yeah, pretty much orchestras too (esp. the really large ones).

Yuki should really do more orchestral stuff too. Her rendition/conduct of Wagner's Die Meistersinger Overture wasn't too bad, actually (just some of the opening lyrical bits felt a little too congested, IMO). (Speak of which, I NEED to find that Boogiepops CD or at least a lossless rip of it. Seems soooo impossible to locate it at all.)

 

[murrue02]

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Well, I like to see it as: less for them, more for us!

Hmm....similar.

Mine's largely strings (in general, EVEN the double bass and the harp), French horn (so elegant), woodwinds, piano and percussions. So yeah, pretty much orchestras too (esp. the really large ones).

Yuki should really do more orchestral stuff too. Her rendition/conduct of Wagner's Die Meistersinger Overture wasn't too bad, actually (just some of the opening lyrical bits felt a little too congested, IMO). (Speak of which, I NEED to find that Boogiepops CD or at least a lossless rip of it. Seems soooo impossible to locate it at all.)

i think i haven't heard of yuki's rendition of Wagner's Die Meistersinger Overture.do u have that?as for orchestra,i really love it as a whole,esp when the contrabass and cello joins in.the wind part,i have to say it's the flute and clarinet that i love most.yuki should perfom live with an orchestra.esp that she has lots of compositions for it.she can rearrange them for an orchestra piece (well that would be a lot of work)

 

[Nick Hunter]

Haven't we clarified already that Meistersinger was arranged by another person?

yuki should perfom live with an orchestra.esp that she has lots of compositions for it.

Yessssss
How about a full scale collaboration with Eminence, really?

 

[ninetales]

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yuki should perfom live with an orchestra.esp that she has lots of compositions for it.she can rearrange them for an orchestra piece (well that would be a lot of work)

Even a string quartet would be lovely...

Hey, if Revo can pretend to conduct a string quartet, so can Kajiura-sensei

(No offense to the Sound Horizon fans...it's just that Revo was doing the strangest type of conducting I've ever seen, and it just didn't look real to me.)

Um, as for the topic, I'm also starting to really like girugamesh. Not for their composition, mind you, because they can't write melody lines to save their lives (at least in my opinion), but for their upbeat and rocking arrangements. It's stuff to give you energy, which I always need more of

 

[Special_K]

Nobody conducts a quartet, actually.

But yeah, it would be nice to have Yuki work with a proper orchestra. Not Eminence, though, they are absolutely bollocks (sorry!!). Tokyo Philharmonic, maybe? Or if that one is impossible, maybe the Japan Philharmonic instead?

/me is whacked for dreaming big.

 

[ninetales]

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Nobody conducts a quartet, actually.

Well, Revo certainly seemed to...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hG4jS2GbPgY[/youtube]

I guess he really was pretending

But yeah, it would be nice to have Yuki work with a proper orchestra.

One thing I'd love to see is a performance of A Tiny Light, from RHH OST 2. Full orchestra + Kajiura-sensei on an acoustic piano =

Ugh, I keep encouraging off-topic discussions...

 

[murrue02]

Eminence is too i'm not saying they're not good.but the group may not qualify to kajiura music since it requires a large scale of players. so i'm dreaming of yuki arranging her music for Tokyo philharmonic


Revo is just pretending there in the vid isn't he?since a string quartet doesn't need him

 

[Special_K]

From my very limited experiences with string quartets, they take their cues from the first violin.

So...that erm...confirms that our Revo is....

As for the scale wise, Yuki's present compositions actually doesn't command the use of a large orchestra. However, where technicalities are concerned, I feel that Eminence is really not up to the task (they are kinda like a part-time orchestra, after all!).

The reason why I brought up large orchestras like the Tokyo Philharmonic was because I feel that she has the potential to harness their potential and produce interesting new works that have even more layers, textures and colour to the sound she is currently making. That in turn, should evoke even more expressive tunes (whilst still largely keeping the technicalities side in check) and maybe a better sound.

 

[murrue02]

^oh sorry, what i meant above was most of Yuki's instrumental composition would really sound better if a full scale orchestra would do it right?hehehe
i really envy Yoko Kanno when i watched her concert with an orchestra.i thought: YUKI SHOULD DO IT TOO


as for your Revo: i'm not a Revo fan

 

[Special_K]

^neither am I a Revo fan.

Hmm...yeah, although I'm actually more up for completely different rearrangements/compositions, though.

 

[murrue02]

^oh i forgot to mention i listen to Jazz

 

[ninetales]

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So...that erm...confirms that our Revo is....

I think our Revo is just there to serve as eye candy

Which he's pretty good at, at least when he's not in full costume

As for the scale wise, Yuki's present compositions actually doesn't command the use of a large orchestra. However, where technicalities are concerned, I feel that Eminence is really not up to the task (they are kinda like a part-time orchestra, after all!).

The reason why I brought up large orchestras like the Tokyo Philharmonic was because I feel that she has the potential to harness their potential and produce interesting new works that have even more layers, textures and colour to the sound she is currently making. That in turn, should evoke even more expressive tunes (whilst still largely keeping the technicalities side in check) and maybe a better sound.

That's true...usually she uses Kido Kiyo Strings or Konno Hitoshi Strings, at least according to the booklets, so they definitely aren't full orchestras. And the harps/horns/etc. are synthesized, I think. (Well, to be fair, the horns in RHH OST 1 were real, but I've never seen a harpist credited.)

It would be lovely hearing new, fully orchestrated songs from Kajiura-sensei, and I agree that she has the potential to write them! Even if she needs time to work up to it, she could just start out making orchestral versions of vocal songs. I personally would love to hear that for Kyrie, Fairytale, (We Are So) Together, etc., like the version of Anna Ni performed by the London Symphony Orchestra. Although that wasn't arranged by Kajiura-sensei

By the way...what sort of group is Eminence exactly?

Sorry for leaping into the conversation again

 

[murrue02]

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The reason why I brought up large orchestras like the Tokyo Philharmonic was because I feel that she has the potential to harness their potential and produce interesting new works that have even more layers, textures and colour to the sound she is currently making. That in turn, should evoke even more expressive tunes (whilst still largely keeping the technicalities side in check) and maybe a better sound.

yeah.that's what i wanted too.i think you said it clearly coz i couldn't express it quite well (in my state of mind right now)

i believe that Yuki's pieces deserves an orchestra

That's true...usually she uses Kido Kiyo Strings or Konno Hitoshi Strings, at least according to the booklets, so they definitely aren't full orchestras. And the harps/horns/etc. are synthesized, I think. (Well, to be fair, the horns in RHH OST 1 were real, but I've never seen a harpist credited.)

It would be lovely hearing new, fully orchestrated songs from Kajiura-sensei, and I agree that she has the potential to write them! Even if she needs time to work up to it, she could just start out making orchestral versions of vocal songs. I personally would love to hear that for Kyrie, Fairytale, (We Are So) Together, etc., like the version of Anna Ni performed by the London Symphony Orchestra. Although that wasn't arranged by Kajiura-sensei

By the way...what sort of group is Eminence exactly?

Sorry for leaping into the conversation again

yeah i know coz when you listen to it, it doesn't sound like an orchestra accompanying her.just a few strings.sorry for not making my statement that clear.

In wikki they are labeled as Eminence orchestra.it's composed of a piano,flute,violin,cello,drums,guitar right? i think they are called a symphony orchestra.i'll try to check it out

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The Eminence Symphony Orchestra founded in Sydney, Australia is an independent symphony orchestra which delves into the classical music featured in video games and anime, as well as film scores.

guess i was right.a symphony orchestra

 

[ninetales]

^ Oh, thanks for the info!

Hmm. If they're just piano, flute, violin, cello, drums and guitar...then they're pretty much Kajiura-sensei's recording band. She uses those instruments in almost every song, usually all together!

 

[murrue02]

^the one that performed during the night of Fantasia is called an Ensemble.Eminence has a unit of orchestra and symphony orchestra depending on the number of members performing.

 

[Special_K]

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^oh i forgot to mention i listen to Jazz

Jazz is good. Recently I just came across Suara's rendition of a few Japanese Jazz pieces. Not bad.

Together, etc., like the version of Anna Ni performed by the London Symphony Orchestra.

OOOH THAT ONE....it was interesting, no doubt. But yeah, I think with a bit more Kajiura influence on it, it wouldn't sound so "2D".

By the way...what sort of group is Eminence exactly?

(after some googling)

Apparently they are a professional orchestra?!

They don't sound like one, IMO.

Spoiler

Reasoning: They just can't handle the basic tempo of a piece for nuts. It's always too fast or too slow. Their control of dynamics in a piece is also way awful (even a student orchestra can do way better than them in these two aspects). Also, I find that there seemed to be little synergy amongst the players (just random interpretations and a general very lackadaisical vibe from them), to make things worse, their conductors seem to have a very lassaiz faire attitude as well. And that's like basic technicalities in orchestra music all gone wrong.

Classic case of absolutely ruined pieces in point: One Winged Angel, Mononoke-Hime/Journey to the West

So yeah....I just don't like them.

 

[murrue02]

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Jazz is good. Recently I just came across Suara's rendition of a few Japanese Jazz pieces. Not bad.

lately i've been listening to Julie London (you can google her, she's too ancient) as for Japanese Jazz i've been a Katsuo Ohno fan, you happen to know him?though i'm gonna check out Suara, Rie Akagi also plays Jazz.it was my late twin brother's influence, he listens a lot to Kenny G. and other Jazz artists.

as for Eminence, they seem to be an orchestra and can be a symphony orchestra or ensemble sometime,depending on the piece i think.i agree with Special-K.remember when they performed canta per me and dreamers? (i can't forget those) it seems that there's a problem with the tempo and texture

 

[ninetales]

I'm going to watch this version of Canta Per Me now.

Okay, right away the first violin is going too fast.

The piano doesn't fit at all...I think there should be another cello instead. Maybe it's the recording, but I just keep hearing 'donk, donk, donk' from the piano during the lines, and that one high 'ding!' at the end of each chorus

And why is the piano doing the background chorus to the violin solo!?

Well, it's okay...I would expect a version that's better-arranged and little more polished, though. This is a tad...amateurish, I guess

Now, on to The Dreamers.

The violin's too fast again And the guitar part sounds completely spur-of-the-moment. It's not even in time!

And (maybe it's the recording, but) I can barely hear the beat. What happened to those distracting bongos from the beginning? Maybe they could've kept the guitar on time

Wow, that was a bit of a trainwreck...I don't think I want to listen to any more

They just can't handle the basic tempo of a piece for nuts. It's always too fast or too slow.

Agreed

Also, I find that there seemed to be little synergy amongst the players (just random interpretations and a general very lackadaisical vibe from them)

Agreed x100

In some ways, it almost reminds me of a Youtube collaboration. The first violinist looks around, messages some other musicians, asks them to play their own parts without giving them sheet music, and then they all hope for the best