After Eden Special Live 2011 BD/DVD

[Cerise]

You do bring up a good point about there being a gap between Wakana and Hikaru. Sadly, that gap seems to be getting more obvious because of Wakana's recent difficulties. But I do think Hikaru deserves some credit, she sings Wakana-range stuff in Kizuato live/Hikari no Senritsu/oblivious. (And like I mentioned, her oblivious "ahhh"s are better than Wakana's... although that shouldn't be happening. xD;)

Yes I love Hikaru's falsetto in oblivious and Hikaru no Senritsu...but for Wakana's parts that don't have falsetto, it's much harder for Hikaru to sub in (also because it seems that it's not falsetto that tires Wakana, it seems to be over-using her chest voice)...

...this probably isn't a good example because Hikaru wasn't actually subbing in because Wakana was overtired, but in fairytale, for example, Hikaru's 'sayonaraaaaaaa' replacing Wakana was...okay, but quite obviously a big stretch for Hikaru considering how much she had to shout to get that note out, whereas I can imagine Wakana reaching that note far more effortlessly...

similarly in Natsu no Ringo (also probs not the best example since it was only cos Wakana couldn't finish her previous line in time, not cos she was stressed/tired) but the "Fue no ne ga…Kimi wo saratteku...Kaze no naka...Yagate kuru aki e…" part also sounded quite hard for Hikaru whereas in contrast, when Wakana sings the same thing at the end, she does it far more easily.

The problem is, Hikaru can sub in for the parts that are falsetto but it's much harder for her to sub in some of Wakana's chest-voice sung lines...and that's where Kaori in FJ could or would be able to fill in...

So Maya aside, it'd probably alleviate Wakana more if they got a Kaori-ranged type of singer in...

Speaking of which...how high does Yuuka's range span?

 

[wintersviolet]

^ Good point This will make me think twice when getting cross with Hikaru for screaming xD

I guess that puts Hikaru in a difficult position- not high enough to swap melody with Wakana, not low enough to support Keiko. I would also go for a Kaori-range singer to assist Wakana, but on the opposite end of the spectrum Keiko needs help too. Maybe it would be best to get two new vocalists! The more the merrier *is bricked*


I think Yuuka's range is around the same as Hikaru's. But I don't listen to her much so don't take my word for it xD

 

[ZoaKaizer]

hmm

im getting used to see the three of them already.....



imagining they have another new member doesnt looks good in my imagination

 

[Special_K]

@winter + off-topic (personal request) (from context of BD Live):

Maya's role in ARIA live (7th heaven) was in support almost all the way till the end, where she got her own bit. It would have been impossible to tell without the video (there was too much overlap with Hikaru, except that she has more refinement in her voice but a lot less power).

Getting back on track...

Mika Kobayashi should join Kalafina

Interesting voice. But It would probably mean a complete direction change in order to integrate her in...

 

[ZoaKaizer]

but if they got like 2 new singers.... what if their harmonization style changed into Jam Project's style ?

 

[ritardando]

Re:

hmm

im getting used to see the three of them already.....



imagining they have another new member doesnt looks good in my imagination

I'm with you in this case. I think if they have a new member, that new member will have lots of problem, because :
1. Kalafina has already established for a 3 members group for 3 years now, and each girl already have their own 'toward-more-fans' and the 4th member will have a difficult time to get attention to her.
2. Even when Maya and Hikaru joined Kalafina, they only sing for support in Kizuato, Kimi ga Hikari ni Kaete iku, and oblivious, and there's no vocal-arrangement for the vocalist. So if they have a new vocalist, that new vocalist will have to do harmony for entire Kalafina 3 albums and 10 singles. The listener obviously already used to Wakana-Keiko-Hikaru on their own part, so even if there's vocal arrangement to the new vocalist, I think it won't please the fans well. I.e if the girl take half Wakana's part in Magnolia, the 'toward-Wakana-more-fans' who already used to hear Wakana voice in Magnolia obviously will complain, even if the girl sing it in a good way.

Anyway, that just me. For me they most likely won't get a new vocalist because they're not an idol-group that have graduation-system...

Sorry if anyone feel offended with my post.

 

[KP-X]

I personally wouldn't mind a 4th member, if she was a competent one.

 

[salvanos]

Now THIS is the kind of choreography Kalafina needs in their concerts
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dWC7iEMOk8&feature=related[/youtube]


I'm being sarcastic of course

 

[ZoaKaizer]

^ LoL

 

[wintersviolet]

@K Thanks, but I was talking about the studio version. It's okay, never mind xD

I personally wouldn't mind a 4th member, if she was a competent one.

Yeah, it's not a big deal to me if a fourth member sings support as long as she brings some balance to Kalafina. Sucks it's 99.9% chance Yuki's not considering that.

 

[Kugayama]

^ I did see the Animelo performance of this song... Motsu nearly had a wardrobe malfunction. (On the clip above, I find that arm waving style *very* off-putting).

 

[ritardando]

It's just me or in D.U live, Hikaru sang "sono nigori wo ai to yonde" and not "kono nigori wo ai to yonde"?

 

[Kagaribi no Hanabira]

Re:

You do bring up a good point about there being a gap between Wakana and Hikaru. Sadly, that gap seems to be getting more obvious because of Wakana's recent difficulties. But I do think Hikaru deserves some credit, she sings Wakana-range stuff in Kizuato live/Hikari no Senritsu/oblivious. (And like I mentioned, her oblivious "ahhh"s are better than Wakana's... although that shouldn't be happening. xD;)

Yes I love Hikaru's falsetto in oblivious and Hikaru no Senritsu...but for Wakana's parts that don't have falsetto, it's much harder for Hikaru to sub in (also because it seems that it's not falsetto that tires Wakana, it seems to be over-using her chest voice)...

...this probably isn't a good example because Hikaru wasn't actually subbing in because Wakana was overtired, but in fairytale, for example, Hikaru's 'sayonaraaaaaaa' replacing Wakana was...okay, but quite obviously a big stretch for Hikaru considering how much she had to shout to get that note out, whereas I can imagine Wakana reaching that note far more effortlessly...

similarly in Natsu no Ringo (also probs not the best example since it was only cos Wakana couldn't finish her previous line in time, not cos she was stressed/tired) but the "Fue no ne ga…Kimi wo saratteku...Kaze no naka...Yagate kuru aki e…" part also sounded quite hard for Hikaru whereas in contrast, when Wakana sings the same thing at the end, she does it far more easily.

The problem is, Hikaru can sub in for the parts that are falsetto but it's much harder for her to sub in some of Wakana's chest-voice sung lines...and that's where Kaori in FJ could or would be able to fill in...

So Maya aside, it'd probably alleviate Wakana more if they got a Kaori-ranged type of singer in...

Speaking of which...how high does Yuuka's range span?

I haven't noticed that Hikaru may need to 'shout' in some case to reach the high note, but I think you're right. However, I think her Fairytale's Sayonara isn't a case. It isn't that high and Hikaru's part is supposed to be an echo-like of Wakana's line, so it should sound soft and smooth. If she sang it softier, she didn't need to shout even it's a bit high for her range.

I think Yuuka's range span started a bit higher than Hikaru and ends quite higher than Hikaru, but obviously less powerful and more sharp&nasal...which I think that it isn't suitable to add her in any group...(even I'm her fan though...)

 

[aero.senpai]

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Man, no! I'm always terrified whenever I imagine Kaori dressed up in Kalafina's fashion.

well, if you've seen her dresses in sound horizon performances, there are SOME similarities

Oh, you're right. I've seen very few of SH so far, but hte clothes are...oh, well, I'm never pleased with what these japanese girls wear, anyway

but if they got like 2 new singers.... what if their harmonization style changed into Jam Project's style ?

Everyone singing with burning anison tamashii?

 

[Lorde-Kowz]

Yay, my copy and poster arrived! Now i have to wait till Saturday to watch it.

 

[ZoaKaizer]

Re: Re:

but if they got like 2 new singers.... what if their harmonization style changed into Jam Project's style ?

Everyone singing with burning anison tamashii?

Yea


That would be awesome and Great

 

[Yurika-Chan]

Anyone have the translated MC, i wanna lnow what are they saying

 

[aero.senpai]

Re: Re:

but if they got like 2 new singers.... what if their harmonization style changed into Jam Project's style ?

Everyone singing with burning anison tamashii?

Yea


That would be awesome and Great

Yeah..I do agree *Imagining all FJC singing some anison classics Great

 

[KP-X]

I finally got to watch Ongaku today.
Seriously, there is something wrong with Wakana. More than her performance, what worries me is how much she is struggling to try to sing it. This can't be normal.

 

[Hime_Wakana]

Anyone have the translated MC, i wanna lnow what are they saying

+1!! I woul like to know!