Vocal Discussion of Yuki's Singers

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Thank you so much Kawohni for all the explanations! :chuu: :bow: :XD: How do you tell a chest voice and throat voice apart? :ayashii: It seems hard for me to tell them apart for Kaori and Wakana...

(Also...your thoughts on Yuriko? :innocent: )
 
It depends on the singer, but generally I've found that throat voice is sometimes "scratchier", or at least more like a head voice. Chest voice has that deep, full sound, but head and throat voices are more hollow. Singing from the throat would be somewhere between chest and head; it's thinner than the chest voice but still fuller and less breathy than head voice.

Honestly it's difficult to explain. :desksweat:
It's something you just have to listen a lot for.

Yuriko... I really, really like her, but I don't think she's used well in FJ to be honest. She fits the bill of a classical soprano, which is a rather dominating voice type because it requires power and control, but she gets stuck with background vocals a lot. Her actual range is relatively narrow from what I've heard, but she is really good at switching between her voices and climbing into high octaves (didn't she do Materialize live? because it was amazing). She rocks the narrow range and when she does have foreground vocals, she's awesome. As a fellow soprano who wants to get into opera training soon, I really admire her voice. ;w;
 
Thank you for the information, Kawohni, you are really good at it :ohoho:
Yeah, I agree. Yuriko has so much potential! She needs more love <3

About Hikaru and Kaori. Both are mezzo, right? But their tessitura is different... So do you think Hikaru is more inclined to the deep side of mezzo or both are in the middle? I really wanted to have them singing together to know how it would sound <3
 
Kaori's tessitura sounds like it's more in the middle range, and Hikaru sounds most comfortable lower.

I bet they could harmonize really well. :dote:
 
all i know kaori voice is awesome except if she loss her breath hehehehehe ...... i think kaori breath capacity is small ... that's why in my observation last music energy she is always tired and when she reach higher notes in calling and haji..... the duration is shorter.. no offence my observation only hehehe
 
@Kawohni

thanks so much for sharing your knowledge :bow:

I'm curious about Wakana's singing technic. Her old voice is really powerful and beautiful :nosebleed: . Can you tell us more about it? Is it naturally powerful or is she using a technic to make it powerful? How about her falsetto? What frequency does she use it? Is it normal or too much? I actually tried to count how many times she used it in one song the result is many.

sorry for bombarding you with so many questions. :bow:
 
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Kawohni said:
...Her actual range is relatively narrow from what I've heard, but she is really good at switching between her voices and climbing into high octaves (didn't she do Materialize live? because it was amazing). She rocks the narrow range and when she does have foreground vocals, she's awesome....
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Yuriko's range is in fact very wide. She famously does a lot of high note chorus in FJ but you can also hear her doing some lower range background.
In [merry- omohide sunset (duet version)] her parts are almost all low pitched, almost at Keiko territory, to fit into a song designed for male voice. Not as nice as her high note as you may imagine, but it does show her very high [usable] vocal range.
 
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tabete.mio said:
@Kawohni

thanks so much for sharing your knowledge :bow:

I'm curious about Wakana's singing technic. Her old voice is really powerful and beautiful :nosebleed: . Can you tell us more about it? Is it naturally powerful or is she using a technic to make it powerful? How about her falsetto? What frequency does she use it? Is it normal or too much? I actually tried to count how many times she used it in one song the result is many.

sorry for bombarding you with so many questions. :bow:
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Her old singing technique switched between her chest and head voice often, and she had a very strong vibrato before she got her stamina worn down. I'm of the belief that any singing type can be powerful, but the singer has to know how to use it. Since Wakana is trying something new, it seems, she has yet to have full control over it.

She uses her falsetto quite often, because as I've said before, Kajiura really loves those high notes, and Wakana's mid-range tessitura is not really comfortably made for those. Falsetto exists for pushing yourself outside of your limits, and that's what she does a lot. Nearly all of her recent very high notes have been in a falsetto.


mf4361 said:
Kawohni said:
...Her actual range is relatively narrow from what I've heard, but she is really good at switching between her voices and climbing into high octaves (didn't she do Materialize live? because it was amazing). She rocks the narrow range and when she does have foreground vocals, she's awesome....
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Yuriko's range is in fact very wide. She famously does a lot of high note chorus in FJ but you can also hear her doing some lower range background.
In [merry- omohide sunset (duet version)] her parts are almost all low pitched, almost at Keiko territory, to fit into a song designed for male voice. Not as nice as her high note as you may imagine, but it does show her very high [usable] vocal range.
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Hmm, all the more reason she's not used very well in FJ. I've only heard her in a narrow range, so that's quite interesting! And I suppose it depends on what you consider wide or narrow. My own singing range is G3 to E5 natively, and I consider that rather narrow.


Kowz said:
What does Kawowni think of my 3D waifu Eri Itou?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huehbkWIUds
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I heard her a lot in the Xenosaga III soundtrack and really loved what she brought to the songs. Her voice type is certainly soprano, possibly classical, but sometimes I think she even leans into soubrette (as a voice type) or coloratura. Her voice is another nasally one, actually, but I find it to be more pleasant than most others like hers -- I guess because her voice is actually quite soft.

Also she was Belle in the Japanese dub of Beauty and the Beast, and that's awesome in my book.
 
^I guess that's kinda true Yuriko's real potential isn't fully utilized in FJ then. She does have her solo career started off earlier (with the two mini albums) but even that didn't go very well...
 
Kind of OT question, but is she the composer for the tracks of her solo albums or is she just a singer in them?

I ask because I thought all the songs sounded super samey in the one I listened and I got bored pretty quick :uh..:
 
^ if I remember correctly, Yuriko did do a pro music degree so she does have the ability to compose...but I don't know if she actually does so for her own songs... :confu:

@Kawohni: Would you call Wakana's voice in songs like 'the land of water' and 'paradise regained' as a falsetto or head voice? :ayashii:

Also do you have any thoughts on Tomaru Hanae and/or Yuri Kasahara? (Or even Yuki/Fion's voice?) :plot:

With the vocal classification system, if, say, a singer's normal voice is most comfortable deep (e.g. in the contralto range) but they can reach high notes that may be in the soprano range using head voice/falsetto and still sound decent, would that singer be classified as a contralto or a soprano? (Or does such a widely-ranged singer not exist? :XD: ) So basically, is it the tessitura or the actual physical range of the singer that actually determines whether they are contralto/mezzo/sop?

(That said, would you be in a position based on listening to their songs to be able to give an estimate of what you think the actual ranges of the utahimes might be? e.g. Kaori range (I know it's probably not but): approx. middle C to high high C or something)

Sorry for asking so many questions, hope it's not bothering you... :omg: :bow: :XD:
 
I'll have to ask my singing teacher about that, actually, because I'm not sure! It's a good question, though; my theory is that they would be considered whatever their native register is, because falsetto is not a "true voice". It's outside the modal register. It's only meant to reach notes that you cannot otherwise reach.

As for your other questions... I don't have time to analyze anything right now but I can get back to you on that.
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^ I see...well it'd be a lot easier and probably make more sense that way...I was just wondering what would happen if some really hardcore, talented ultimate singer appeared who could somehow encompass both high and low ranges :XD:
 
I'm glad this thread finally have someone who is actually objective and knows what she actually is talking. lol. :tea:
 
I'm just wondering how Yuki could find these magical utahimes with magical voices... I'm just amazed... :sohappy:
 
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Cerise said:
^ I see...well it'd be a lot easier and probably make more sense that way...I was just wondering what would happen if some really hardcore, talented ultimate singer appeared who could somehow encompass both high and low ranges :XD:
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I think one of the records for biggest vocal range is held by Georgia Brown. Allegedly she has an 8 octave range, spanning from G2 to G10, but she's only been recorded going as far as G8 or so (and I'm pretty sure G10 isn't audible to humans). That's still a lot though.

In cases like this I'm not sure what she'd classify as. It's probably that whatever note range she's singing in, that's the type of voice she has at that moment. So if she wants to sing as soprano, she's soprano, and the same goes for contralto, etc.

But talent like that is super rare. :XD:
 
Wow, didn't know she was brazilian. Nice. Even though she has a wide range, I didn't like her voice at all.. But pretty impressive!
 
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Yuki88 said:
I'm glad this thread finally have someone who is actually objective and knows what she actually is talking. lol. :tea:
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lol, like your opinion matters.
 
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