(POLL) Yuki Kajiura tracks with MAKEOVERS (or multiple versions) (as of 2024)

I may have a different take on your example (without knowing more details) but, at the end of the day, that was still on her for wanting to fit in when her voice was trained for different things (or even just naturally suited different things). Sux if joining a choir was her wish but not everyone has to do everything/be good at everything. Frankly, probably not many people are. Surely not every choir singer could do whatever she did.

Her voice was certainly more trained than any of ours, no doubt about it. However, we were not looking for a solo singer (we outsourced those for concerts) but a regular member. Perhaps she struggled to sing with a more restrained, blended tone. I guess that’s one of the reasons classically trained (professional) solo singers often do not sing with the choir in tutti sections, since their voices would stick out like a sore thumb. On the other hand, there are also some that can sing with the choir and blend in well.

Either way, regardless of whether she couldn’t or simply didn’t want to change her singing style, from her reaction it appeared to me like she didn’t understand what the problem was. Hence my previous analysis, which could of course be wrong.
 
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unable to download it flags it as a virus
 
She was singing Kasahara-style vibrato regardless of the style and mood of the song and didn't mix well at all with the rest of the choir.
I was just trying to imagine Kasahara singing as part of the main Kajiura 4-person chorus! 😳

I actually feel Eri could... 🤔

Perhaps she struggled to sing with a more restrained, blended tone.
Choral singing seems to aim to remove differences between and become one voice, blending tones and removing/reducing vibrato.
 
Ohkay... so I was on a bit of a sabbatical this week and I see that nobody except tsubasa addressed week2 stuff. Either nobody else had the time or noticed the new songs in the first post... Or @tsubasa's virus post scared them away.

Sooo lets deal with the last one first.

@tsubasa what exactly is flagging it as a virus for you? Is it mega itself? Or your browser, antivirus or system?

All I can say is that neither my winblows, nor ESET antivirs are detecting anything suspicious with the link, download, archive or files within. I tried on mobile too. No issues, except on mobile firefox mega said it cannot preview the file (nothing about a virus though).

My only guess is that somehow the archive being password encrypted makes it get flagged for you?

Does the week 1 meguri aishite soba ni ite archive (or any of my links from the guide thread) work for you or does it also get flagged?

EDIT:
Issue kind of solved. Presumably false positive due to the archive being password locked & encrypted.

 
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Ohkay... so I was on a bit of a sabbatical this week and I see that nobody except tsubasa addressed week2 stuff. Either nobody else had the time or noticed the new songs in the first post... Or @tsubasa's virus post scared them away.

Sooo lets deal with the last one first.

@tsubasa what exactly is flagging it as a virus for you? Is it mega itself? Or your browser, antivirus or system?

All I can say is that neither my winblows, nor ESET antivirs are detecting anything suspicious with the link, download, archive or files within. I tried on mobile too. No issues, except on mobile firefox mega said it cannot preview the file (nothing about a virus though).

My only guess is that somehow the archive being password encrypted makes it get flagged for you?

Does the week 1 meguri aishite soba ni ite archive (or any of my links from the guide thread) work for you or does it also get flagged?
Where's the week 2 content? I didn't see the post for it.
 
I added new songs to the opening post and moved outdated songs to the next post as I had mentioned in the wall of text in the original post.
 
Anyhow, while I wait for @tsubasa 's response Re:virus flag, guess I'll start again:

Koi no Kiseki

+1 single ver?

Much like Soba ni Ite I'm actually flipping back n forth between the two versions. While the album version maybe feels a little more complete, I also think it's a little "too much" maybe? Whereas I find the single version cute and fitting for how innocent/cheesy the song is.​

I like the lalala bridge in the album version more but it's kind of giving me The Cranberries a little? lol. The bridge in the single version is rough.​

you are my love

+1 Eri ver

Yui Makino unfortunately does nothing for me in her version.​

Velvet no Inori / Hoshikuzu

++++++1 Velvet no Inori

I don't think Hoshikuzu is bad. The new lyrics are fine, I really like Keiko in the verses and the instrumental is _mostly_ the same. Wakana's backing chorus is meh (her voice going through multiple colors in one phrase makes it overly stand out in the mix IMHO) but not a dealbreaker. The issue I have with Hoshikuzu is actually the refrain. The new mix for the instrumental but even more so Kaori's performance come across much too aggressive & way too peppy to my liking. The way Kaori attacks every higher note annoys me to no end. The cleaner/dry-er mix also is at fault here for making the refrain feel much more "rushed" to me than almost a dreamlike fantasy of Noriko Ogawa's song.​

Love Velvet no Inori. I don't even mind the fadeout that much (fadeouts are generally one of my petpeeves), but I do like Hoshikuzu having a proper outro.​
 
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I’ve been super busy this week, but here are my thoughts! (Also, I got the Mega situation figured out! I give my thanks to both Grunty and the majestic unzipper app)

Koi no Kiseki

Wow, I haven’t listened to this one before; I’m so excited to check it out! . . . Wow what a dull song. Definitely doesn’t match how overly aggressive the drums are in both versions. Well, the a,bum one feels a bit more ‘complete’, so I’ll go with that one. Plus I like the vocalizing.

+1 Album Version

You Are My Love

Eri wins.

(Considered just leaving it at that, but the Makino version’s not bad either. But when she’s up against Eri’s gorgeous vocals and a guitar that is gorgeously reminiscent of “Lullaby”, there’s just no competition.)

+1 Eri Version

Velvet no Inori/Hoshikuzu

Eep! I’ve never been able to track down Velvet no Inori anywhere before, so this is really exciting! . . . But I think I still prefer Hoshikuzu. Mostly because of Wakana’s chorus parts, which I could honestly listen to all day, but I also really like Keiko’s work on the verses. I agree with Grunty’s take about Kaori’s refrain work being overly-accented, but I’ve gotten used to it over time. I like Ogawa’s work and the instrumental on the OG, but I think I have to go with Hoshikuzu on this one. It’s also a great way to open “Everlasting Songs”.

(Man, I miss Wakana. Love her solo work too, but her voice always had a certain ‘magic’ with Kajiura, no matter how it changed over time)

+1 Hoshikuzu
 
Ohkay... so I was on a bit of a sabbatical this week and I see that nobody except tsubasa addressed week2 stuff. Either nobody else had the time or noticed the new songs in the first post... Or @tsubasa's virus post scared them away.

Sooo lets deal with the last one first.

@tsubasa what exactly is flagging it as a virus for you? Is it mega itself? Or your browser, antivirus or system?

All I can say is that neither my winblows, nor ESET antivirs are detecting anything suspicious with the link, download, archive or files within. I tried on mobile too. No issues, except on mobile firefox mega said it cannot preview the file (nothing about a virus though).

My only guess is that somehow the archive being password encrypted makes it get flagged for you?

Does the week 1 meguri aishite soba ni ite archive (or any of my links from the guide thread) work for you or does it also get flagged?
Hi sorry for the late post... Just recovered from my flu... Apparently, Microsoft Defender flags it as a virus...and deletes it immediately which I find rather unusual because I always get files from you this way...

The week one is fine I was able to download and open it normally...
 
EDIT:
Issue kind of solved. Presumably false positive due to the archive being password locked & encrypted.


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@tsubasa that's peculiar :| I was kind of expecting that old ass meguri aishite file to get flagged too so I could say "well that's on you then" but if one does get flagged and the other doesn't... I am confusion. (And slightly worried, too. Unless it's some weird Windows update BS.)

Would you mind experimenting further with me?

Here's the same exact files that I used for the previous upload but each in its own archive (made the same way with the same cpm for pass):
Code:
https://mega.nz/file/94xSAaxS#8kyA-TVkCtlmR1VsSJguO9__Ik1LshJfRopq8SFwXNA
Code:
https://mega.nz/file/k0oymCSI#npWbz1zb61w-AePkmmbuQNJll4Wq1pf7M4MHQ3ZbMcs
Code:
https://mega.nz/file/kxBxAS4C#rNNUrgVknWNCXWGFu3xa6Iuee-_gJ25EZub6q-UTCZM
Do they all still get flagged for you? (extended velvet no inori is just mp3, the other two are flacs)

PS.
@Decretum do you need the Fantasy Sound & Reading album?
 
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Hi sorry for the late post... Just recovered from my flu... Apparently, Microsoft Defender flags it as a virus...and deletes it immediately which I find rather unusual because I always get files from you this way...

The week one is fine I was able to download and open it normally...
You can use virus total, its a site that scans files with a bunch of different antivirus at same time
 
Ah yes, because everyone loves uploading files to random websites to scan.
And yes, I realize the irony of saying that and doing what we do on the internet.

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PS. I wonder if they keep this shot in the final edit of the HF concert on blu-ray...
 
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Eh. It really feels like they want to protect you from passworded files that they can't scan on the fly. Which is fair just in case, I guess.

I don't really know what to do. I'll PM you a version without the password so you can see if it still flags it.
 
Kay, so @tsubasa didn't have an issue with a non-passworded archive of the same exact files.

I'm going to assume the previous warning/virus flags were just false alerts.
 
Koi no Kiseki

Another typical Saeko Chiba song. I'm not a fan. At least it's less boring than Soba ni Ite. Both versions honestly sound really dated, especially the single version which sounds like basically a fully programmed keyboard arrangement. The album version on the other hand features those keyboard fake-strings that were so prevalent in jpop music of the 2000s, which I hate. Still, at least it features real instruments, and for that reason alone I would say I prefer this version.

+ 1 album ver.

You are my love

I went into this fully expecting that I would end up prefering Eri's version by a long shot, but I actually also quite enjoy Yui Makino's version, I think mainly also because of the nice piano accomaniment. I'm usually not a big fan of Yui's vocals for more upbeat songs such as synchronicity, but for softer songs such as this, it actually fits quite well in my opinion. Still, the original version is unbeatable, so I have to go with that.

+ 1 Eri ver.

Velvet no Inori/Hoshikuzu

Ok, so I have to preface this by saying that I heard Hoshikuzu first and only listened to Velvet no Inori much later. I've been a big fan of Hoshikuzu since I've first heard it, so I'm heavily biased. In my opinion, hoshikuzu is superior in virtually every aspect (except maybe the lyrics, to which I have paid no attention if I'm honest). The intro, outro, the multi-vocalist approach, the mix - everything just sounds better to me in Hoshikuzu. Still, Velvet no Hnori is by no means bad, in fact it is already really darn good. But in my opinion, the song was perfected with Hoshikuzu.

+ 1 Hoshikuzu
 
week3 lets go~
(yes, in the opening post again)

full disclosure: the random track was originally supposed to be something else but because of my choice of including musicians credits and there being no dedicated credits available for said track, I'm going to do that one and all others from the same lot next week...
 
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