「Kalafina Anniversary LIVE 2025」15th January Tokyo Garden Theater (NO KAJIURA INVOLVEMENT)
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Kugayama
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FictionJunction Club Live shows in early 2013 had Kalafina with Yuki Kajiura on keyboards.
CloisteredFlame
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What I was trying to say is that there was nothing gained by keeping Kajiura away, because nothing changed about her presence since she's never on stage or involved with concert prep.
They're still using her musical creations, in essence her sound (composition, arrangement, additional recordings of vocals, etc.). The only thing they achieved was keeping her name off Kalafina's lips (and all marketing material) during their resurrection concert.
She's still going to get paid even for this concert. It's just a spiteful action to remove her name from the performance of her music by a group she essentially created and named.
grunty
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Is there evidence to that or confirmation? She is listed as General Director in some of the lives that I checked (and separate from Artist Producer). Has to mean something... or not.
The rest of the post I think I'm on board with.
CloisteredFlame
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Wasn't that just the YKL2 with Kalafina's introduction the only time?
CloisteredFlame
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Anyway I'm glad you get my point.
All my info has been from YouTube videos and the internet (including this forum), but the few behind the scenes of their lives I've seen on YT usually have the FBM working with them during rehearsals for Kalafina. It's very reasonable that Kajiura worked with Kalafina during rehearsals for the earliest concerts, then left them to their devices as they matured.
For the title of General Director, that implies that she was actually hands-on with them. Was that during early concerts?
CloisteredFlame
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Uhm.... Do you mind sharing some of your creations? What kind of music do you compose?I have only one question. Did they mention Kajiura at all in the live performance??
I am speaking also as a composer, it would hurt me if I will not be acknowledged as the creator of the songs. But I am so happy for the reunion of the girls. Enjoyed the bootleg but preferred the FBM version more
CloisteredFlame
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It seems like her initial reaction on Twitter was about not losing face, since it seemed that SC really wanted that to happen, one way or another.
I listened to the audio and she said the right things to settle the tensions but it was obvious she was hurt. It's not a good addition to her legacy.
Yeah, that vibrato. It was manufactured, rather than emanating from a healthy, supported head voice.
That kind of "vibrato" is spoken of in similar terms in classical pedagogy, and as a wrong way to do it. I don't think she's trying to sound bad, and she definitely knows her voice has changed, but she just can't do it healthily and seemed to be trying to force it (essentially manufactured). I would have preferred if she went breathy straight falsetto instead. Actually change the vocal instead of trying to still do as if she can sing in that range. There were a lot of held notes by her and Hikaru where I was hoping they would just cut off because their voices were so out of shape to do it like they used to.
There's no doubt, comparing apples to apples. FJ/FBM is carrying the torch for Kalafina's music in terms of covering it at a high level, vocally and musically.
I am hoping for some acoustic covers of Kalafina songs during the upcoming Jump Out! live - simplified for fewer singers! [Edit: Joelle/Yuriko duet(!); Shuri backed up by both of them; possibilities!]
One thing Kajiura was able to achieve with her YKL/KajiFes covers is having the breadth of quality live singers so as to not need to use much, if any, backing tracks. Joelle and Yuriko were doing most of those little spicy Kajiurago mini-sections virtually live! I mean YKL17 "Sprinter" was the eye-opener for me, with Yuriko doing those higher soprano harmonies in person, instead of as a disembodied voice above Wakana's live singing.
It would have been nice if Yuriko actually got to do it with Wakana together with Keiko and Hikaru, but I think part of the mystique/branding of Kalafina is that it's just the 3 of them on stage (WKH is Kalafina), so there's no way to incorporate Yuriko being on stage with them (or Hanae, or whoever supported the studio version of the songs). This means FJ is the only place where we can get an expanded, full vocal arrangement and performance of Kalafina songs, live!
It's a real auditory treat for Kajiura fans to hear her intended vocal landscape fully (or mostly) live, and she should never stop covering Kalafina. Kajiura needs to keep showing how it's done. (A possibly weird analogy is how software companies - Microsoft, Google - can license out their OS to other phone/PC hardware makers but also make their own phones to showcase the intended standard).
grunty
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Hmm. Based on released video end credit rolls:
Red Moon live has her as General Direction.
After Eden, Consolation, THE BEST lives all have her as General Director (alongside Artist Producer).
After that:
2016 far on the water live has her as Producer; Mori as Producer under DVD/Blu-Ray Staff
2016 Arena Live only has her as Artist Producer; Mori is listed as Music Director under SPACE CRAFT GROUP.
2017 9+ONE live only has her as Artist Producer; Mori is listed as Music Director for the DVD/Blu-ray Staff Music Part.
2018 10th Anniversary live only has her as Artist Producer. Mori is gone, AFAICT. Hiromitsu Ishikawa is singled out as Arrangement & Support (the only time AFAICT). There's no Music Director listed that I can see.
Again, I dunno if it means jack shit.
grunty
I have reached Yuki nirvana
Perhaps the new music director was just an unfortunate scapegoat by getting listed in the announcements, to make sure NO KAJIURA INVOLVEMENT was clear... Sucky interpersonal/intercompany situation indeed.
As for the result, I certainly cannot say it was a wrong decision to stick to everything that came before and was available to reuse (including Kajiura produced backing tracks, going by sampling of the bootleg). I simply expected something else when he was listed front & center in the announcements - that's all.
Anyhow, I think that's all I have for this topic. No bad feelings. Happy for all the fans.
As for the result, I certainly cannot say it was a wrong decision to stick to everything that came before and was available to reuse (including Kajiura produced backing tracks, going by sampling of the bootleg). I simply expected something else when he was listed front & center in the announcements - that's all.
Anyhow, I think that's all I have for this topic. No bad feelings. Happy for all the fans.
CloisteredFlame
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Thanks for looking these up. We can only wonder what the roles were in each instance.
toshiroukajiura
I like Yuki
I create music inspired by Yuki Kajiura
I play Kajiura music too. In our country’s YK fanclub, I made a promise to continue Yuki Kajiura’s music and her influence as long as I can. Here are some links if you wanna listen :
1. Lucid Interval
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1P14LjkQ2M/?mibextid=wwXIfr
2. The Gathering - instrumental
https://youtu.be/s4bVBU5zXGE?si=bxHW-ZffoB_d5dPi
3. The Gathering ( A Song for Laie )
- with vocals
https://youtu.be/RwdN_xlHAE0?si=7hY_1GB_-HFxRKFD
And hundreds more
CloisteredFlame
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Rehearsal picture showing the team.
george1234
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Thats more accurate lol
CloisteredFlame
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But why?
CloisteredFlame
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You forgot to put a halo above someone's head to counterbalances the horns.
george1234
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Cause he is the only musician (and his quartet but he's the leader) who agreed to play for the girls despite the sneaky move to Kajiura lolBut why?
CloisteredFlame
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So, basically, no angels in the photo...