"Kalafina Arena LIVE 2016" September 10-11 (Kobe World Memorial), 16-17 (Budokan)

^Is the link to BokuDake OP or is my computer? (a lovely song, btwn) The video is the first one in the "related videos" on the side, so it's not much of a problem. Wonder if this link works: http://www.tudou.com/programs/view/-GnzxYrB9fg/
Thank you for sharing anyway =D ♥
It's a shame they didn't show a lot of non-recorded songs. Only into the world, and we couldn't get a lot of it, but I´m liking it so far ♥
I agree Hikaru sounds much better here, but for some reason Blaze keeps lacking something for me. Can't tell what exactly.
Nothing new about Storia, we heard it performed 839402048023523480932450345 times already. :XD:
In your eyes sounded strange for me, but idk, not bad anyway. Not a song I'd put on the encore, tho. Nice to see the girls having fun.
The a capella "into the world" was HEAVENLY. They should try do some things like that, without an instrumental her armonies become even more powerful :hearts:
 
Listened to it. Not much to say, other than INTO THE WORLD WAS AWESOME :hearts:
Other than that, pretty much same old for everything else... Hikaru's still struggling but not as bad as that Mezamashi performance a few weeks ago. Not as good as how she sounded in the FotW special final, but not ear-splittingly bad (like parts of Budokan) either. Hopefully she recovers soon.

Zinnia said:
In your eyes sounded strange for me, but idk, not bad anyway.
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Agreed. It seems that the percussion is a bit different, and the electric guitar is either turned down really low or is playing something different.
 
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^ thanks! I guess its from the same live they are going to air on wowow (unless they recorded all of em)

I dont know why, but they all sound less powerful to me.
 
Thank you really much for the link!
I agree they sounded ok, but lacked energy? Can't tell, not bad, not as good as FotW. (I can understand they might be tired since they had lots of events going on lately. I just hope they don't force themselves too much)
Into the worls is like FotW little brother. But I like it, I enjoy that kind of songs.
Blaze was decent. I don't care too much about it yet, to be honest.
 
Damn, no Kobe exclusive shirts. I expected as much, but that's the one thing I wanted to get that's not available :touched:.

Surprised they got everything up so fast, however. Usually takes forever.
 
Listened to the longer vid, and here's my opinion:

- First of all, I don't think that this is not better than FotW live. As all of you may know, FotW live (as well as other lives that had been released by SME) is edited - sometimes one the girls was a bit flat, or sometimes the harmony parts were a little bit too loud, but in those BDs/DVDs we can't really make it out. However, in this case, I can detect some flats here and there and somewhere Keiko was too loud, that means definitely this one's unedited (there's no point editing it then leave some mistakes, eh?) Furthermore, the audio editing process can take a long time, there's no way to do it within a month (broadcast will be on Oct 29, live was in Sep 17). So compare an edited one like FotW with this, I think we can't say that this one is not as good... yet.

- Second, audio-wise, I myself like Hikaru in this live more than the FotW life - she sounded so fresh & clean that I believe she has recovered from whatever put her down. The metal pipe Hikaru is on the way back, everyone (though still far away). Since the Budokan live last year, her voice has been considerable... low (even in the FotW live, I think she was wonderful, but still not as fresh as before)?!

- Last, about the lack of energy thing, I don't mind it very much. When I first discovered Kalafina, I was like "Wow look at their hands during live" - they move too much and are kinda... weird. Then time goes by and I finally get used to it. Now I see they were standing still, not doing anything much and just singing, I also feel great. I think they didn't swing back and forth much to make it seemed more mature. I would like to call this 'modest Kalafina', LOL.
 
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Hikaru still sound like shit during blaze imo. Wakana sounds so...thin -- not that this is something new. lol @ Hikaru's arukidashiteta and Wakana during in your eyes. So far Keiko sounds great.
 
Sorry, I think Hikaru has strayed far from the metal pipe voice she used to have and I don't think she'll be going back… Wakana … idk lol…… I think when she adopted her new singing style she lost something in exchange (old news though like mentioned). Keiko is loud, but still the most consistent of the three. I still enjoy their harmonies, but their recent songs have kind of "lost the magic" for me so to speak ….. seems like they'll be going this route for a while though.
 
shiro said:
Sorry, I think Hikaru has strayed far from the metal pipe voice she used to have and I don't think she'll be going back… Wakana … idk lol…… I think when she adopted her new singing style she lost something in exchange (old news though like mentioned). Keiko is loud, but still the most consistent of the three. I still enjoy their harmonies, but their recent songs have kind of "lost the magic" for me so to speak ….. seems like they'll be going this route for a while though.
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Agreed. Hikaru's new voice is really straining on the ears, just look at Eden from Budokan for a perfect example. Wakana definitely lost something with her voice when she adjusted to this voice, mainly the bittersweet "fallen angel" sound she used to have. I can tell she's tried to emulate that voice a little (ex. Seventh Heaven from FotW live), but those moments are few and far between. Keiko I've noticed has sounded a bit higher (not as much bass) in her solos, which is a bit annoying because I know she can still sing in that voice just fine, listening to her harmonies. I think that their newer songs have sacrificed the dark, sad style for increasing complexity in the harmony work (many more 3-part-harmonies), so at least there's that to look forward to and listen to.
 
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Yes I know that Hikaru's 'new' voice is not as good (or as high) as her old one. However, if you compare this vid to the Budokan or even FotW, you can clearly hear that her voice this time is higher and more fresh (for an unedited audio). For me, I take this as a sign of her recover.

I also agree that Wakana's new voice is thin and loses the 'fallen angel' feeling, and Kalafina's A-sides these days totally lack of the magical feeling in it. I wonder why... Well, at least Wakana's new voice fit with Kalafina's new songs.

I personally don't think that Kalafina's songs nowadays exchange the mood for the harmony. Many of their songs in the past is super complex, and so are many of their songs now. I just think that Kajiura changes her style with Kalafina, or SME has something to do with it - they want to make Kalafina more and more popular and as the result, Kalafina has more generic songs.
 
That's just your wishful thinking.

On that vk video, they sing the first chorus of "in your eyes"

in your eyes
anata no soba de koi no subete ga mitai no
hitomi utsushiautoki itsumo egao de itai ne
in your eyes

not to be confused with the last chorus

in your eyes
futari de miteru sukoshi akarui sekai e
hitomi utsushiautoki itsumo egao de iru kara
in your eyes

that part (the first chorus) was originally sung by Hikaru in the studio version and their After Eden Special Live. This is another proof that Hikaru's voice is nowhere getting higher. In fact she has to give up a whole stanza to Wakana because of her new singing technique/voice/whatever that actually limits her voice to an even narrower range than Keiko.

This is why we're not getting Mata Kaza back forever. Hikaru hit one of her highest notes there. F5 in weigh your anchor and dream on, iirc.
 
^ Just why are they all changing techniques ? Does it happen with any other jpop group/singer ?

( i follow nana mizuki shorta closely but havent noticed any change to her voice since the song i first heard from her, which was eternal blaze)
 
ritardando said:
That's just your wishful thinking.

On that vk video, they sing the first chorus of "in your eyes"

in your eyes
anata no soba de koi no subete ga mitai no
hitomi utsushiautoki itsumo egao de itai ne
in your eyes

not to be confused with the last chorus

in your eyes
futari de miteru sukoshi akarui sekai e
hitomi utsushiautoki itsumo egao de iru kara
in your eyes

that part (the first chorus) was originally sung by Hikaru in the studio version and their After Eden Special Live. This is another proof that Hikaru's voice is nowhere getting higher. In fact she has to give up a whole stanza to Wakana because of her new singing technique/voice/whatever that actually limits her voice to an even narrower range than Keiko.

This is why we're not getting Mata Kaza back forever. Hikaru hit one of her highest notes there. F5 in weigh your anchor and dream on, iirc.
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Oh, now you said that I notice, indeed. And not just this one, in Natsu no Ringo they exchanged their live parts too. I don't think that Hikaru changed her technique or whatsoever, it seems more like a vocal crisis - about Hikaru vs Keiko, you're right. Hikaru's range is not as wide as Keiko nowadays (hey, but I still keep my opinion that in the VK video her voice is much more fresh than FotW).

P/S: Mata Kaze's highest note by Hikaru is Eb, not F (even Wakana cannot hit that one, her highest chest voice is E in ring your bell). Speaking of vocal technique, do you guys think that Hikaru's head voice (sort of opera voice when she sings the upper harmony) is affected? In recent live, whenever she used that seemed good as old days for me.

Edit: sorry for being off topic but I just want to know more, thanks.
 
She can still do falsetto. Just her head voice is more limited in range now. The best example of this would be ARIA, where Hikaru's voice now cracks when reaching those notes in the chorus when she had absolutely no issue hitting those notes in the pre-Consolation era. ARIA went from being one of her best songs to her worst one now.

It's such a shame too, because Hikaru having a more limited range now means even less vocal variety for Kalafina. She used to be the most versatile member vocally with her vocal range and range of singing styles (eg. neverending vs Magia vs Hanataba vs HnS) which all show off what she was capable of - key word being was.

Hikaru sounded better in FotW because she was singing songs that was composed for her after her technique change. She didn't have to try and 'emulate' her old voice like she did during the Budokan lives (Eden was especially grating). I'm pretty sure all of them are aware of it, thus the change in leads during in your eyes and Natsu no Ringo during Budokan.

Which gives me the thought - how refreshing would it be if members could periodically switch leads during songs, like for example, Keiko taking Hikaru's part during ARIA or something. That would help bring new life to old songs considering how much we've heard them at this point.
 
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Speaking of vocal technique, do you guys think that Hikaru's head voice (sort of opera voice when she sings the upper harmony) is affected?
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Kirito said:
She can still do falsetto.
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I agree for the most part, but it seems that a few of her falsetto harmony parts have been switched to being played from the speaker. A perfect example of this would be the high harmony in Hikari no Senritsu chorus from Budokan. She doesn't even look like she's singing there, just lazily mouthing the words. Her highest note here would be F#, during the last choruses (kiete yuku hikari no naka). Plus you can barely hear her, and what you can hear is very echo-y, like how kajiuriago is normally played during lives (unlike all other lives). So that means that though her falsetto tone has been largely unaffected, her range hasn't been. I agree with @Kirito that they should switch up parts in songs periodically, even if it's just for the sake of variety (though Keiko doing ARIA? That song's highest note in chest voice goes to C#, and I've never heard her sing a C in chest voice)

I guess the thing that's worrying with Hikaru is that she seems to be struggling to reach notes and flat out can't reach others, compared to when Wakana had trouble she mainly just seemed to be very strained, voice cracks only coming at the worst of times.
 
Her HnS high harmony is playback. It's exactly the same as the studio one.

Weird, though. She has no trouble doing it during their Christmas/acoustic lives since there's no playback to them and she's fine there.
 
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