Kalafina 3rd Album「After Eden」

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Oh, it's coming out so soon...that's about the same time that the bill for that giru book and Stone Cold'll be coming in, so I probably won't be able to afford it :cry:

頑張ります anyway :TdT:

But on other matters...what is WITH that title? "After Eden"? :fwa:

With a title like that, I'd expect a lot of Lacrimosa/Fairytale/Seventh Heaven/Haru wa-esque songs. And since Kajiura-sensei is saying that this album will be very different from the other two...let me analyze further...

Well, Seventh Heaven was quite dramatic, even the non-KnK songs like Ongaku, Ashita no Keshiki, etc. It had about the same sad moods to it as the KnK movies apparently did.

Red Moon, on the other hand, was very exotic and dark. A lot of Hikaru, a lot of exotic-sounding melody lines, with a few little different points (Storia, Hikari no Senritsu, Intermezzo, etc.) thrown in.

So what's the opposite of these songs? Most of them are dramatic, very emotional, the type of songs that leave you feeling drained somehow. So I would expect the songs in After Eden to be quieter, smoother, maybe more relaxing and calming. Perhaps songs like Heaven by See-Saw (without so much synth) or perhaps songs like Shizuka na Kotoba (hopefully with that great bass)...all in all, songs that are not the 'tragic anime ending' or 'triumphant anime opening' type. (Aside from the already-released A-sides that'll be included, that is.)

Okay, I"ll stop analyzing now :ohoho:

murrue02 said:
recorded flute was inserted coz there was no one available to play it live? :plot: (no i think there was but Yuki didn't invited one) just assuming. I also think that Yuki chooses the musical instruments which is available and fitting for the mood of the song

I think you're right, but I think it also fits into what's being discussed lately...Kajiura-sensei is using the same arrangements a lot. She uses similar arrangements for a lot of songs - the flute/violin goes in the same place, the chorus is sung by the same people, the songs are constructed in the same way. Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset about that, because she has a wonderful formula, and it almost always works!

But I don't think that either the Natsu no Ringo flute solo or the Storia flute solo was too hard for Konno-san to play live, and I also think that it would've given a completely different and perhaps more emotional mood to the songs if he were to have played them. After all, think of what his performance did to I Have A Dream - I personally think it was wonderfully moving when he played at the end! Maybe giving violin solos to the flute, and giving flute solos to the violin, is what Kajiura-sensei needs to do...it might take her a little out of her comfort zone and open up some new arrangement techniques for her to try.

Of course, I don't know how Konno-san would've sounded in Hikari no Senritsu because of the different style of solo. Actually I think that the solo should be altogether cut out in the live, like it is in the Exit Trance remix, to speed things up a bit. But the flutist wasn't Rie Akagi, so perhaps his contract specified that his solo was to be included in any performances of the song...

Well, either way, I'm still hoping for more violin :innocent:

And I don't mind more flute either :V:
 
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ninetales said:
With a title like that, I'd expect a lot of Lacrimosa/Fairytale/Seventh Heaven/Haru wa-esque songs. And since Kajiura-sensei is saying that this album will be very different from the other two...
:cry:

Well, should the album have overall a smooth, quiet feel to it, Magia will be one of the exceptions. In case this is the feel of the album, I believe snow falling may be in it as well.
 
I would love to hear songs like Magia in the new album! Energetic, rousing, powerful, different, with a lot of vocal role switching and layering :nosebleed:
Not saying I don't love a good ballad, though. My top favorite ballads are still the ones way back in KnK, but Kagayaku is good so I have high hopes. :sohappy:

That album title is still bugging me! If it was just "Eden" I would think of more peaceful, serene songs that move at a mid to slow pace. But "AFTER Eden"? In my mind, it could go two ways- a vacated, empty feeling (un poco como KnK), or a more chaotic sound.

It might be a bit too early to say, especially with so little information. But I'm so excited for this albuuummmm :sohappy:
 
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ninetales said:
I think you're right, but I think it also fits into what's being discussed lately...Kajiura-sensei is using the same arrangements a lot. She uses similar arrangements for a lot of songs - the flute/violin goes in the same place, the chorus is sung by the same people, the songs are constructed in the same way. Don't get me wrong, I'm not upset about that, because she has a wonderful formula, and it almost always works!

But I don't think that either the Natsu no Ringo flute solo or the Storia flute solo was too hard for Konno-san to play live, and I also think that it would've given a completely different and perhaps more emotional mood to the songs if he were to have played them. After all, think of what his performance did to I Have A Dream - I personally think it was wonderfully moving when he played at the end! Maybe giving violin solos to the flute, and giving flute solos to the violin, is what Kajiura-sensei needs to do...it might take her a little out of her comfort zone and open up some new arrangement techniques for her to try.

Of course, I don't know how Konno-san would've sounded in Hikari no Senritsu because of the different style of solo. Actually I think that the solo should be altogether cut out in the live, like it is in the Exit Trance remix, to speed things up a bit. But the flutist wasn't Rie Akagi, so perhaps his contract specified that his solo was to be included in any performances of the song...

Well, either way, I'm still hoping for more violin :innocent:

And I don't mind more flute either :V:

i get ur point and what ur hoping for. :plot: Yuki knows other Flutists i think.but remember everytime you kissed me live?the flute was replaced with violin, i think it was nicely arranged.i still love Yuki's arrangements, it may be similar in some songs but each song have different arrangements.

honestly, i would love her to use different instrument this time, like the clarinet or oboe. :ayashii:
 
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wintersviolet said:
That album title is still bugging me! If it was just "Eden" I would think of more peaceful, serene songs that move at a mid to slow pace. But "AFTER Eden"? In my mind, it could go two ways- a vacated, empty feeling (un poco como KnK), or a more chaotic sound.

It might be a bit too early to say, especially with so little information. But I'm so excited for this albuuummmm :sohappy:

Agree on both points :V:

murrue02 said:
but remember everytime you kissed me live?the flute was replaced with violin, i think it was nicely arranged.

Oh, I've never heard Everytime You Kissed Me live! I'll have to look for it on Youtube :stars:
 
Yes, more clarinet and oboe please! I would also love if Yuki featured some brass instrument solos as well, especially live. I've always thought the French horn would sound so lovely with some of her songs :dote:

PLEASE, Yuki, bring in a live cellist someday! I would squeal like a 4 year old and then die at the awesomeness. :imdead:
 
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wintersviolet said:
PLEASE, Yuki, bring in a live cellist someday! I would squeal like a 4 year old and then die at the awesomeness. :imdead:

Seconded!! :sohappy:
 
wintersviolet said:
Yes, more clarinet and oboe please! I would also love if Yuki featured some brass instrument solos as well, especially live. I've always thought the French horn would sound so lovely with some of her songs :dote:

PLEASE, Yuki, bring in a live cellist someday! I would squeal like a 4 year old and then die at the awesomeness. :imdead:

i hope for a string quartet live if an orchestra wouldn't be possible at the moment. :XD:

seriously, i love the french horn too.so Yuki could explore more on the brass and wood wind section
 
So,will they make a PV only for "symphonia" but not for the album titular track, that "After Eden"? If that so I will be dissapointed to death :uh..:

Anyway, love the title.
That album title is still bugging me! If it was just "Eden" I would think of more peaceful, serene songs that move at a mid to slow pace. But "AFTER Eden"? In my mind, it could go two ways- a vacated, empty feeling (un poco como KnK), or a more chaotic sound.

Agree with winter in this point. Well, for my taste I prefer a dark-atmospheric song with a middle tempo for that song.
 
about the mook Keiri said...
http://blog.oricon.co.jp/kalafina/archive/407/0
2011年9月16日、Kalafinaの3rd Album Releaseを記念して、ソニー・マガジンズよりオフィシャル“Kalafina本(タイトル未定)”が発売!!
3人の撮り下ろし写真やインタビューはもちろん、春のツアーの密着レポートや、梶浦由記による全曲解説などを収録予定。

it will be released on 9/16 (earlier than after eden itself lol) and contain various photo shots, interviews, secret report from spring tour (Magia) as well as liner's notes of the album by Kajiura herself.
 
Hum...
I really wanted this and it will be released near my birthday. Maybe I should ask for the CD as my birthday present if possible? ;X
 
You know I'm actually surprised they aren't including Kagayaku and Magia PVs in addition to symphonia and the Los Angeles report.
 
^ but that they are going to include the symphonia PV doesnt mean that they wont include what you methion, after all there's lots of space into the DVD :XD:
 
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