FJC-only 「Kalafina 9th Anniversary LIVE 2017」Jan 22-23

If I remember correctly, Kajiura has stated in the past that she has no interest in mentoring/ bringing up singers because she has no professional training in that area.
Kajiura also stated recently that she did not consider much about vocals singing limits, ability or adaptability when she wrote Kalafina songs before. I take this as a sign that she gradually realized something she pushed too far away and caused unrecoverable "damage". Maybe that's why she now only writes songs of middle-low key for Hikaru.

I wish they would take lessons from Yuriko Kaida lol. AFAIK, she still helps out with Kalafina recordings as backup. And next to Kasahara she's the best singer Kajiura works with, and she's classically trained so she could teach the girls proper technique.
I remember Keiko said she once learned from and was trained by Yuriko after she became one of the Kajiura utahime family. Wakana mentioned in 2015 that she again went to take vocal music lessions from time to time. However, Hikaru didn't say much about her training after being Kalafina member.
 
Kajiura also stated recently that she did not consider much about vocals singing limits, ability or adaptability when she wrote Kalafina songs before. I take this as a sign that she gradually realized something she pushed too far away and caused unrecoverable "damage". Maybe that's why she now only writes songs of middle-low key for Hikaru.

Where did she say that ?
 
EDIT: found the interview I was talking about, part I'm talking about in the spoiler.
However, around the time of our 2nd album "Red Moon", I started getting lots of requests for "Kalafina's Wakana", that I began to see how Kalafina was associated with myself, and started thinking "Is it really okay to keep going like this?" After that, during the third album "After Eden", I hit a huge wall.
That was "I can't sing the way I want". Due to my singing skill, I couldn't sing in the ideal way that I wanted. During recordings, I couldn't sing well and even troubled Kajiura-san, and this became a big problem.
Even though I thought I was trying my best, the results weren't coming so it seemed meaningless. It was hard enough with just the recordings, that there was no way I could have handled lives. The time when our third album was the peak of my problems.
For me, that most problematic was the theme song of "After Eden", which is "Eden". I couldn't sing it the way I wanted at all.
I also got some pretty strict words from Kajiura-san. However, I think it was because of those words that I could be here today. If not, I might have kept slipping down. Accepting my failings and thinking "I can't keep being like this" became the basis for the thought "I have to work harder for this".
At the time of "After Eden", I became very highly strung during lives. I kept assuming too much that it would be difficult, that I have thought, "I might not be able to sing this" every time. I became very pessimistic about this.
That's why "Eden" is one of my favorite songs now. Because it was a difficult song for me, I practiced it so many times and did so much work on it, that I can always sing it comfortably now, I think. There are many Kalafina songs like this each time. What sort of song will come next time, which one will be the next "Eden" for me? That's how I always think.
There were problematic periods as well after that. Both when "to the beginning" and "moonfesta" came out, I still felt like I hadn't grasped the actual feeling of these songs. Something inside me was still looking for the right direction, looking for something, but I didn't know what it was.
The key that pulled me out of the mood of "searching for the image of Kalafina" was the song "ひかりふる (Light Falls)". At the start, this song was very difficult for me. That's why I thought that if I can do this song perfectly, I could accept that. Kajiura-san thought the same way when she told me "Wakana-chan, try to do Hikari Furu perfectly".
"Let's clear the difficulties one by one", and work on the minute details thoroughly. Once I did that, I thought "I've finally got it!". By understanding the song "Hikari Furu", I also finally saw my place in the group. That was where I changed. I felt refreshed.
I don't know about singing, or techniques or whatever, so can't comment on that, but God, this interview made me so sad :c Wakana seems to be so perfectionist and put so much effort into everything! I can't even imagine how frustrated she felt when she was unable to sing a single note right :touched: I just wanna go to hug her :cry:

Anyway, in my opinion Wakana doesn't sound as before, but I think she's improving and becoming a little more consistent nowadays. Not as fantastic as before, but she's slowly improving again ♥ I'd love to see this most recent version of Kimi ga Hikari ni Kaete Yuku to check how she sang it, the original was always breathtaking.
Instead, Hikaru seems to keep with her issues, and I hope she can solve them soon! She always was so versatile, it's sad to watch her struggling so muh now :c

And God, if that's true that Kajiura said that she doesn't thing about her girls' limits, that's freacking horrible. They are talented, but you can't just push them until they break! :vortex: Be more careful, Kajiura, please, take care of your little angels!
 
Well did you read the rest of that interview after that passege ? Wakana seems to have overcome that problem and she is even looking for more "difficult to sing" songs like Eden, to improve herself. I cant see why Hikari Furu is so difficult, as, if she was able to hit the notes right on "Seventh Heaven", "Hikari Furu" is quite similar. I think that Kajiura isnt evil in some way but sometimes what she composes challenges their voices, and adapting the song to the vocalist's comfort zone might change the song's feel completely, like it seems to happen with "Aria" now. Seriously, Aria is the super very first song of Hikaru in that group so i dont get why she's suddenly no able to sing it as she should.

If you ask me, the "Luminality" that Wakana was able to pull on 2008 seeem to me much more difficult that Eden. So in the end its more like that the tons of live events they do are what damage their voices rather than the songs Kajiura makes.
 
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I cant see why Hikari Furu is so difficult, as, if she was able to hit the notes right on "Seventh Heaven", "Hikari Furu" is quite similar.

It's interesting and somewhat amusing to me that Wakana credits hikarifuru as the turning point for her vocal issues. IMO the only thing that prevents hikarifuru from true greatness is Wakana herself. It's a song that seemed to be custom made for her old voice to sing, and it would have easily surpassed seventh heaven if sung that way. Alas, some things are just not meant to be.
 
HF is difficult because it is a lot of switching between head and chest voice in addition to the great number of arpeggios used in the song (at least in the beginning). It's tiring. SH isn't easy, but the notes are done in a scaling sort of style, where each note is just going up and down the scales (what's the musical term? Lmao I'm an amateur :p).

Eden is a tough song for WAKANA because it is rather fast paced and demanding on WAKANA's vocal cords. Look at liminality - the pace is very gentle and steady. Her head voice notes are all in the same line, as are her chest voice notes (verses vs chorus). Also, looking at the chorus, she's only singing like a range of five notes or so (didn't actually look into this; may be wrong; not precise number). Eden? Going up and down the scale and ending on a held note that's somewhat high, requiring her to strain her voice if she's tired. Just cus liminality has WAKANA hitting high notes doesn't mean it's "harder". Singing in the head voice can be a breeze if using proper vocal cord control.

Starting with TTB, I noticed the singles require WAKANA to really strain her voice for the chorus. Faster paced, more "energetic" songs like HB, believe, one light, manten, RYB... You hear how she sounds so whiny and really is tightening up that throat to meet the demands of these songs to overpower the heavy percussion and bass.

This conversation really made me relisten to pre-AE songs and appreciate WAKANA's old voice (SH, oblivious, kimigahikari, fairytale, lacrimosa). Also, paradise regained and land of water and historia closing theme *_*
 
HF is difficult because it is a lot of switching between head and chest voice in addition to the great number of arpeggios used in the song (at least in the beginning).
Not to mention there's almost no background chords to help her with notes.

Limimality would probably be a relatively easy song to sing, as long as one has developed falsetto (which Wakana obviously does). It's at a pretty slow tempo, and she doesn't have to constantly switch between falsetto & head voice. The only hard part of that song I say is the "we are in the land of the twilight" part in the beginning where there's no background and she has a couple big jumps.
 
now that Kowz mentioned it, I have to repeat what I have already said perhaps a million times:

Wakana can NOT sing Liminality like before. It is not a change for good. It is not the proper way to sing it. It is not perfect. Sorry I feel quite sad whenever I listen to it.
 
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