Jam session with Kalafina - Mirai

His_Cifnes

His_Cifnes

I like Yuki
Ahoi together! : ] - A lot has happened since [ last time ] in June 2024.

New piano with new sounds, lots and lots of hours practicing, and of course taking all advices into account. (Thank you again, @CloisteredFlame!)
Practice focussed especially on timing, reading ahead while playing, scales and more timing, timing, timing, timing.

Found that online teachers and online courses really DO help.
The online courses are especially nice, as they have no schedule, and can be done at any time of the day. : ]

For me jamming to existing music is sooo damn fun, I somehow do "forget" that I'm practicing, and simply have fun while trying out new songs.
Question is though, I would also like to play the songs not voice-over one day. But how? There are karaoke versions of many songs, but I would need it the other way around: I need the singing voices, but not the instruments. I suppose there is no such thing? ; )

However, for the lulz I jammed to Kalafina's Mirai this time.
I'd like to ask the forum's opinion.
~ [ Kalafina - Mirai ] ~

One of my mates suggested the piano was too quiet, so in this video I raised the volume, and thought the result the best compromise between listening quality and actually being able to tell my piano and the RD-700SX from the original track apart.
Using the RD-700NX's "Piano 3" voice in the video.

So, dear forum, did I do better this time? : )

Thanks for your time. ^____^
Cif ~
 
Congratulations on the progress you're making! I'm pleased to hear this.

So what you're trying to achieve now is to isolate the original vocals and use them over your solo keyboard playing (instead of the original instrumentation). Am I getting this right? If that's the case, maybe you can use audio splitting apps to separate the vocals from the instruments, then save the vocals to a separate audio file. You can check online for free tools for doing this... The you could overlay the vocals on your keyboard recording and see how it sounds.

I just listened to your "Mirai" accompaniment video and you've definitely improved in your timing. Keep working on it! I would like to hear your playing by itself maybe as a separate upload. I would suggest trying out using a metronome as well to tighten up the timing.
 
@CloisteredFlame, again many many thanks for your (always) useful feedback. Excellent! *___*

Yes, I'm looking for a way to extract the voices and do the instruments myself. (Not at the same time of course, but with overlaying tracks.)
There are such apps, that can extract the singing voices from existing tracks? Do they work? I know some noise removal applications, that can (based on a sample) remove that sample noise on the whole track... which works quite well, but doesn't sound perfect, as you hear something is missing.
I wonder if these voice extraction applications work better. I'm going to find out. - Thank you! ^^


CloisteredFlame said:
I just listened to your "Mirai" accompaniment video and you've definitely improved in your timing. Keep working on it! I would like to hear your playing by itself maybe as a separate upload. I would suggest trying out using a metronome as well to tighten up the timing.
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You asked, you get it. : ) -- Please find the piano track separated in [ this video ]. It's not listed on Youtube, as clearly it's not as polished as an official "release" on the channel. ; )

The piano comes with a built-in metronome, but I struggle to use it in the scenarios I'm in. This is because the starting point of the playback video and the starting point of the metronome do differ. With this, running the playback video does not appear to have a constant delay. So the metronome would be off each time.

I have not yet tried to upload the song into the piano, and start the playback music together with the built-in metronome. THAT might actually work out, but then why? --> Since I'm playing to a pre-recorded song, this should be as good as a metronome.

I do not hear my own piano separated. While playing I listen to my piano AND the playback recording at the same time, so I can jam to that live.
The key strokes should therefore fit to the underlying music, also time-wise. - In theory.. ; )

If the timing is off, then it's because of my own inability to keep eyes on the scores while playing the piano.

As I could find out, the underlying reason for my impatience is that I still need to look on the scores AND the keys. First peek on the scores reading ahead the next few tones, then next look on the keys to locate the next accord... but then I do not see when the next tone needs to be played, since the eyes are still on the keys, which is why I currently need to guess the right moment for the next tone.

My teacher said, I should focus on NOT peeking at the keys. "Eyes should remain on the scores at all times, or else you need to become better at guessing..." he said. ; )
Practising to play blindly since a couple of weeks now, and it takes shape, but still is not there yet.

And I noticed a flutter in the left hand, that I appear to have (like at minute 2:00 of that recording). This might appear to lenghten a tone... which sounds ok for me while playing to the playback, but when listening to that separately it sounds awful, and I need to get rid of that, completely.

Btw.. uploading the piano-only version of Mirai, Youtube insisted that the content is copyrighted, even though, I did it all myself. :o - I suppose Youtube did recognise the song, even though it's just the piano. I fear, when I play all the instruments myself, Youtube could falsely flag the videos as copyrighted later as well. This could be a potential problem. But I face that later. ; ) - Technical improvement needs to be done anyway.

Cif ~
 
That's great news! Separating the singing voices from the instruments sounds like witch craft. * ___ *
Thank you. : ) - I will try this out. Might take "a moment" though to get that far to perfect all the instruments for a release. (and then unite them again together with the singing voices)
However, everthing needs to be started from a certain point. I'll get started asap.

I'll follow the instructions and give this a nice try.
 
Addition:
While researching these kind of tools, I also found this:

https://www.acestudio.ai

How to use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcZTDVnROWs

This is a different approach than lalal.ai
With this you can either sing yourself (in ugly or nice) and the tool transforms your singing into something purely awesome (so it's advertised).. regardless if input is male or female.

Alternative would be to play the notes on the piano (using midi f.i.) and then edit the text along the melody, and the tool will sing with the selected voice(s) in your melody, in the pitch you have selected, taking all the little settings into account.

Also worth a look, I suppose. Besides English, this tool also supports japanese language..

Cif ~
 
CloisteredFlame said:
I can see you're really getting into the research.
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^___^ Yup, it's soo much fun to make musik. - Imagine to create it from scratch. Track by track, channel by channel.. and then add singing voices to it.. *__* - Definitely worth trying lots of things to achieve such a thing.
This... however, might take a moment until the first release of such a creation.. : )

That's harder than just to jam to something existing. (still jamming remains LOADS of fun, and that's also ongoing, of course. :D)

*happy* Cif ~
 
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