OMG am i crazy or does this song sound like Honoh no Tobira?

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Oky as usual was just listening to my MP3 and playing the piano, then i happen to realised that this song, Stardust Melodia , from Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon has the exact same melodic structure as Honoh no Tobira!
i actually played Honoh no Tobira over this song and 90% of time it had a perfect over-lap! :blood:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtzOQmcB11s[/youtube]
Stardust Melodia

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BazrOuKGLI[/youtube]
Honoh no Tobira

Watch and listen to this
here is the melodic structure for Honoh no Tobira
1. Instrumental introduction (violin as melody)
2. Introduction
3. Intermediate
4. Chorus ( take note of the longer notes)
5. Instrumental bridge
6. Re-Introduction
7. Re-intermediate
8. Re-Chorus ( sudden stop from other instruments)
9. Instrumental bridge + short vocal section
10. Kajiuran part + vocal
11. Change key of Kajiuran + vocal
12. Chorus begins without instruments and then leading to finale
(take note of the repetition of the ending phrases)
13. Instrumental ending

if you have watched the both video, the only difference is that Stardust melodia ending is different from Honoh no Tobira.

Note: Pay attention to beat of the notes, Stardust melodia has a very similar rhythmic pattern to Honoh no Tobira ( if i would to describe, it would just kill everyone with the musical terms :d ), pay attention to which notes are held for a long time and which are stressed. Also pay attention to how each section ends especially chorus XD

This is BLASPHEMY!!!! :omg: :omg: :omg: :omg:
I know its me just trollling but but but :cry:
Anyway after listening to both songs, i got to admit XD
Yuki Kajiura is really really really one hell of composer XD
Stardust melodia Opera/Kajiuran part was nice but kinda bleh...
its like the opera was trying to accompany the main vocals - Homophonic if can understand XD
But for Honoh no Tobira , its is like the Kajiuran part and Yuuka's part are 2 seperate voices and melodies harmonizing together without tipping over the balance - Polyphonic XD
Also Honoh no Tobira had those wonderful Congo drums!
YAY 1 for Yuki Kajiura sama and 0 for those Copy-write LOSERS RAWR! :nosebleed:
 
Indeed, Stardust Melodia has a total same structure with Honoo no Tobira. Epsecially in that operatic-vocal background, and after that the singer sing ".... no kanata e" that leads to the finale chorus, really feels like when Yuuka sings "Honoo no Tobira e..". Where did this stardust melodia come from?
 
Yes, this song sounds like honoh no tobira... less the shrill voice!! I DON'T LIKE ANYTHING!!!!!!!!
 
You are right this somg has the exact same structure and melody with Honoh no Tobira. I wonder why Victor didnt noticed and did legal move against this copy.
 
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ritardando said:
Where did this stardust melodia come from?
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Did a little researching here and there
Stardust Melodia is the Ending for Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon

Lyrics written by Ceui
Music composed by Ceui & Kōtarō Odaka :anger:
Arranged by Kōtarō Odaka :anger:
Performed by Ceui

:blood: :blood: :blood:

And i doubt Victor can file a copy-right against this song cause although the structure and rhythm is almost identical but melodically it is different :wai: sooo i guess Victor can't file any complains :omg:
 
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it really sounds like Honoo no Tobira, can someone make a file of both songs mixed together?

george1234 said:
I wonder why Victor didnt noticed and did legal move against this copy.
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i think it's because there are so many songs and so many people, it's just not possible to notice if a song is just a copy or really a new one, especially if the melody is different. This happens more often than we know, and i'm sure it's not the only rip-off of a Yuki song
 
Re: OMG am i crazy or does this song sound like Honoh no Tob

Hmm, I've listened to the song for awhile now and like it... but if it is copying Honoo no Tobira, which I also love, that is wrong. :XD:
 
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Midori said:
it really sounds like Honoo no Tobira, can someone make a file of both songs mixed together?

george1234 said:
I wonder why Victor didnt noticed and did legal move against this copy.
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i think it's because there are so many songs and so many people, it's just not possible to notice if a song is just a copy or really a new one, especially if the melody is different. This happens more often than we know, and i'm sure it's not the only rip-off of a Yuki song
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You mean one after another or one on ther other?
 
I'd say the reason Victor didn't do anything is because the actual melody is different. Basically everything else - the chord progression, arrangement, rhythm, etc. - is extremely similar to Honoo no Tobira, but the melody lines aren't, so that might prevent them from protesting...

It's not a particularly great-sounding melody line anyway... :uh..:
 
^ No no no, I'm talking about the other one. Kajiura-sensei's melody lines are always great! :bow:
 
Wow after you have put down the song structure even deaf Alphie can hear the resemblance :omg:
 
Even the violin instrumental and the drums, especially the "kajiuran-like" chanting sound very similar to Honoo no Tobira. i don't know why it feels so annoying.
 
Um....even the melody are different... the bridge are almost the same...=______=...
 
exactly.they do have the same structure..copyright issues, i wonder why victor hasn't notice this.
 
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joel_jman said:
there's just this thing called influence
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Even if Honoo no Tobira influenced the song arranger/writer, beside the melody lines, Stardust Melodia really copied Honoo no Tobira. It's no influence at all if you use the same chord-progression, rhythm, structure, etc.
 
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