LIVE performances that killed it or just simply died

Atlas Star

Atlas Star

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So there are live performances that either just made the song so much better or made you appreciate the song more (or start to like the song), aaaaand there are those live performances (possibly recurring styles in LIVE settings) that just make you go "...really?"

For me, I love fairytale studio version but dislike the LIVE renditions. Hikaru and that "sayonara" isn't really the best thing to listen to. Also, KEIKO's verses are so anticlimactic compared to the studio version's dramaticism.

ARIA live was never a favourite for me. KEIKO's harmonizations are different in the first chorus in the recorded version where she holds the note as hikaru songs over her ("hatenai...." "Garan no...."). The LIVE renditions reduce the dramatic impact for me.

Signal isn't as dark and mysterious LIVE compared to studio... And I'm not a fan of the band introduction segment either. I do, however, love the outtro in the LIVE :)

Thoughts? Your ideas?
 
Signal felt kinda flat for both the Budokan and Consolation lives, I hope it comes across better if they play it on the FotW tour. I suspect it'll be better actually being there than on live recordings.

The vocal opening of Storia always comes across as kinda weak on practically every live performance recording I've ever seen/heard of it, it never sounds even close to as good as the studio recording. The rest of the song is usually fine but that opening.

ARIA on Red Day is an obvious example. There was that one performance of Storia a while ago along with I think Heavenly Blue where the whole lot was really quite bad. I still remember that particular performance being vastly worse than any other, either before or since. Thankfully that's the only one I know of that I really don't like, although I recall someone mentioning a particularly bad Lacrimosa performance somewhere.
 
I have not seen a live performance yet where I thought thats its incredible bad.
But as I mentioned in my thread I think the newer live performances of FictionJuntion are a lot weaker than like vol 2 or 4.
I cant judge Kalafina because I have not seen that many songs from them.
 
I agree with @Atlas Star about signal and Aria. Though, the only version of Aria I really like is the one with Maya, mostly because I don't really like Wakana's version of the bridge and it's the kind of song I think sounds better with four voices (same with sprinter tbh).

Snow falling live is a no for me. I don't really like the studio version and the live versions aren't better even with the different arrangement (slower in the beginning, faster in the middle).

As overplayed the song is in their lives, I very much prefer Ongaku live to the studio.

For FJ lives , the live rendition of Duran Shoukan from vol. 9 is fantastic and made me really like the song.:dote:
 
Signal live is missing some sounds, and it makes it sound weaker. Also, Hikaru cuts some notes. That's supposed to be Wakana's thing, hue.

ARIA from YKLive 2 is perfect. All other performances are missing power, which makes it less enjoyable.

Image theme of Xenosaga 2. I only dislike Wakana's part. She needs way more vocal strenght for that part.

Hikari no Yukue. Current Wakana's voice doesn't fit. Again, she needs more vocal strenght.

Same with Oblivious, Kimi ga Hikari..., and Kizuato.
 
Hehe why didnt made a single thread ? like "worse and favourite live performance" ?

The worst perfomance for me ever was the one on the hokuto no ken wedding event where Kaori replaced Wakana and all three girls (Yuriko Kaori Keiko) were so off-key that's definetely an ear-cancer. mind that this was 2 months after YK live vol 2 :vortex:

For Kalafina, I guess some of the ones they did when we were talking about Wakana's voice problems.

btw after sao collection is released please a hokuto n ken one. There are at least 2 unreleased whole soundtracks by YK T_T
 
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Hikari furu would be a song that the live version made me love. Though it also made me love the studio version that much more. Same goes for Seventh Heaven and ARIA.

As for Live versions I don't like, I can only name TTB and Moonfesta. For TTB, Wakana always sounds so strained in the chorus. And that "kirisaite" always makes me cringe. She sounds fine on the Kajiuriago, and I like Hikaru on the "inochi no imi". I hate Hikaru's part on Moonfesta, which is annoying because she's the main singer for it. She sounds much more rich in the studio version.

I would agree with @Seasonreaper about both storia and ARIA from Red Day. About the storia and HB performance, I think the only place where they were performed together (other than budokan blue day) was from the THE BEST live in nicofarre (along with Oblivious and Alleluia). Video here.
 
Yes, I think that's the performance I was thinking of. Just listening to Storia again and it definitely has issues there, mostly Wakana.
 
george1234 said:
The worst perfomance for me ever was the one on the hokuto no ken wedding event where Kaori replaced Wakana and all three girls (Yuriko Kaori Keiko) were so off-key that's definetely an ear-cancer. mind that this was 2 months after YK live vol 2 :vortex:
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Bruh...
KAORI WAS NOT AT THAT EVENT.

Anyway...worst live performance for me is the image theme of Xenosaga II because there is no power in it.
I also dislike destination unknown and progressive because...nah.
 
Absolutely the worst performance of Kalafina was Lacrimosa in Kitakyuushu when Wakana was after flu.
Second place iiiiis:.... oblivious and magia from Animax Musix Studio (2011 was hard year for Kalafina's lives even if I love AE Special Live)
And the third: Aria from Red Day
 
Oh and I forgot about fairytale from Consolation Special Final.
For me Lacrimosa in Kitakyuushu was the worst (Lacrimosa Hironobu Kageyama was awfull too).
 
lapis said:
Bruh...
KAORI WAS NOT AT THAT EVENT.

Anyway...worst live performance for me is the image theme of Xenosaga II because there is no power in it.
I also dislike destination unknown and progressive because...nah.
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Oh sorry i mixed it up lol it was wakana that replaced Kaori on Hanamori no Oka
 
ARIA from Red Day. Major disappointment. :/

Signal lives have been good, but nowhere near as good as the studio version as the FBM can't exactly replicate its awesomeness (left right stereo alternate guitar riffs for one, not to mention how they still insist on the FBM solos which break the song's momentum, and the overly long outro).

Fantasia so far isn't as good as the studio version, mainly to do with the transition from verse to chorus (weak instrumentals).

All oblivious lives after YK LIVE vol. 3. Wakana should use her head voice for the ahhs and not falsetto. The vol. 3 version had a lot more power and the mixing was far better too. This also applies to Kimi ga Hikari lives too, since Keiko doesn't use her deep voice for her verses anymore.

All storia lives from 2013 onwards.

The Consolation Special Final also had plenty of live renditions I didn't like. Moonfesta, Kyrie, red moon, Mirai, and Manten to name a few.
 
- Every performance of heavenly blue ever
- Budokan's and Consolation's Kyrie and Consolation
- As well as every performance of believe
 
^ It's possible that they just don't like the live arrangement either, though. They don't sing them terribly live imo, but I prefer the studio versions for both.

Particularly in heavenly blue, but this goes for a few of their lives actually, where the song loses power because there's three of them live, but in studio there are sometimes 4+ parts and its translation to live isn't that great (I'll love, love Lacrimosa live always, but it still feels emptier with Hikaru only on certain parts of the Kajurago). Even though all three sing Kajurago in the bridge in HB, Remi's playback is still dominating. Which is why I really wish we got to see signal with Yuriko and oblivious and consolation with Hanae.
 
I think the reason why songs like Signal and Fantasia don't quite have the same impact live as they do on record is because we're used to hearing them with synthesized percussion. At live shows I think they use the same drummer(s) as they do for the rock and ballad style songs, so it doesn't have the same effect. It's been a while since I've watched them though, so I could be wrong there. :confu: I just figured they didn't sound quite right because a person playing an acoustic drum kit is trying to recreate the "dance-y" sound of whatever drum machine Yuki used in the studio.

I'm all for live instruments instead of looped samples, but when the character and vibe of a song is reliant on a programmed drum machine I'd rather they used it. Besides, a drum kit is a physically demanding instrument to play, so I'm sure the drummer wouldn't o object to giving his arms and feet a break occasionally!
 
george1234 said:
Hehe why didnt made a single thread ? like "worse and favourite live performance" ?
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Because this thread was intended to gear more towards a discussion of LIVE performances of songs that you, at first, didn't like, but somehow fell in love with the LIVE version and subsequently, possibly fell in love with the song BECAUSE of the live version. OR on the flip side: a song that you're in love with but a LIVE performance just didn't do justice to it.

However, the discussions being brought up are very interesting - so it doesn't matter if a tangent has been pursued.
 
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