「Kalafina Anniversary LIVE 2025」15th January Tokyo Garden Theater (NO KAJIURA INVOLVEMENT)

She's promoting the song on X too.
I wouldn't have given a dime for K&H to promote this. Well, 50/50.
 
CloisteredFlame said:
Have the Kalafina ladies ever covered FictionJunction music in their solo lives, even prior to the news of the reunion?
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iirc Wakana performed Mizu no Akashi at her 2019 solo live, but it didn’t make the Blu-Ray release.

Keiko performed both Kaze no Machi he and Houseki at her first live too, and I think she also did Synchronicity at a later one.

Link to Houseki: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7iAL9FEO_8

Link to Kaze no Machi he: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X69fMK8CJOM
 
Azokad said:
I don't know if I'm getting you... You mean for the future?
Why would she promotes something where she doesn't take part?
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Yeah my original question was about if they had ever played Kajiura’s music in their solo lives, which was answered in the affirmative.

To answer your question, my point was that Keiko promoting the RyB performance was expected because she was a part of that performance (in her own name).

I was wondering if she would promote FJ stuff since it was and is directly under Kajiura. People promote stuff they are not involved with directly all the time. Of course, the recent happenings make that difficult, so it would be a major gesture if she did promote FJ.
 
https://youtu.be/CpVBV9fMm-o?si=-btkzwh51Oe69Yor&t=1852

I was watching this music education video/series and an important point was made at this section section between songwriting for a band that is vocalist-focused, or guitarist-focused, and those that are more collaborative in the songwriting such that the band is the showcase and not a singer or specific skilled musician. It changes how the fan/listener interacts with the artist or band!

This opened my eyes to think deeper in terms of Kajiura's composition and arranging for her vocalists and musicians, how she perceives and writes for and with them, and how that is reflected in the lives and how they are presented and highlighted.

Each of the individual main singers, guest singers, chorus sections, instrumental solos, and even using supporting tracks or not, or going acoustic/a cappella.
 
CloisteredFlame said:
I was wondering if she would promote FJ stuff since it was and is directly under Kajiura. People promote stuff they are not involved with directly all the time. Of course, the recent happenings make that difficult, so it would be a major gesture if she did promote FJ.
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Now I get you. It would be a great gesture, indeed, if she just assisted at YKLive vol#21 and posted about it.
But I understand if she doesn't. After all, Kajiura had no words about this Kalafina live xD
 
george1234 said:
And some follow-up clarifying she wont ban them from singing the Kalafina songs like some people were asking.
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Exactly.

She wasn't quiet about Kalafina, since she wasn't allowed to be, from the way things came together.

She's said several words about Kalafina in her tweet and in the radio program, and wherever she's asked about it again may choose to comment.

The Kala ladies on the other hand haven't said anything about her (naming her directly) since after YKL20, right? I guess the tweet made that more sensitive. Definitely some hurt feelings also involved. They've probably made indirect allusions to her or her music.
 
george1234 said:
And some follow-up clarifying she wont ban them from singing the Kalafina songs like some people were asking.
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Banning wasn't never an option. I remember that Wakana performed Mizu no Akashi once after the disbandment. Of course, Wakana & Keiko performed Kalafina songs in their solo lives so I don't understand why people say that Kajiura can ban...
 
I think that was also a gesture from Kajiura to Kalafina, to say she wouldn't wield the big stick of "only I can play my compositions", or to at least give that impression.

I mean what else could she do? From the start she was having to respond to rumors and arguments and misconceptions on X.
 
george1234 said:
People were pressing her to ban them on twitter. Legally its possible but doesnt make sense as both Kajiura and them contributed to the songs creation.
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Big part of my career nowadays is in music licensing & copyright, and it actually would not be legally possible for Kajiura to prevent Kalafina from performing her songs (whether as Kalafina or solo)

While Kajiura does own the rights to the songs, Kalafina performing it in a show like this could be considered a cover. In that case Kalafina/SC wouldn't need to get permission from Kajiura to perform, record, and distribute the performance- only make sure the relevant licensing fees and royalties are paid to Kajiura. But said license is compulsory and is automatically generated without the original copyright holder (Kajiura)'s permission needed.


Now morally it would be dubious for them to perform if they didn't have Kajiura's blessing, but legally speaking there isn't really much Kajiura could do to stop them (or anyone) from performing her music.
 
OK, if we take it that the kind of licensing Kajiura has for her music does not prevent anyone (including her former collaborators) from performing her music, what happens if they want to make physical or digital copies to sell?

Or what about streaming on YouTube or other platforms with monetization features?
 
george1234 said:
I see even Japanese people covering her songs online and im sure they have monetisation enabled, so i guess its ok ?
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OK, if that's the case and she has no power over her songs composed with SC to ban others from using them, we can assume the fans calling for her to ban Kalafina from using her music were uninformed but just eager to have Kajiura take action against the slight on her role as the creator of the group. They assumed she had the kind of power to challenge their taking her name off the promotion of the concert.

The question is, if she actually had the power to ban them, would SC have insisted on her name being stripped from their reunion plans? They would have been wary of her ability to play that game with them. Another question, is would she? Probably, if she could, I suspect she would.
So Kajiura's hands were basically tied.

I wonder if that came up in conversation during the planning stage of the reunion concert, that Kajiura couldn't prevent them from using the music. The question I have is, ""why keep it secret from her if she couldn't stop it from happening?" (assuming @Westkana is 100% correct).

If they included her name, would SC have had to pay her more? I don't think so. 🤔
If they wanted to use her name SC would have to get her permission, so they just decided to bypass all that by not having any contact with her in any way, and getting the girls to do the same. Or did SC approach her earlier and she said no, so they decided to remove her name from everything, and get the girls to follow suit?
If she couldn't stop it from happening, why did the ladies agree to keep it from her? What could she have done? 🤔🤔🤔
If Keiko and Hikaru met with her and asked her that they wanted to reunite with Wakana and do Kalafina could she have convinced them not to do it? I doubt it.


Kalafina fans (though I am one of them) who are less fond of Kajiura (I am not one of those) have continued to have the impression that the ladies were all innocent bystanders in all this, or they were forced, and should face no backlash or "consequences", but that's just (1.) naive and (2.) incorrect.

They made and committed to decisions and chose who, and how, to associate with and not associate with. They couldn't hope to control anyone else's reaction/response (fans or Kajiura) irrespective of any feelings or expectations they had about their decisions and those reactions.
 
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